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2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)


Nominations will be announced this morning.

It is possible the ceremony doesn't happen until the end of the year or next year...
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/emm...er-1235667092/
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

It's weird that The White Lotus has migrated from Limited or Anthology Series to Dramatic Series. Only one character made it from the first season to the second. I am not sure what the rules are in this sort of thing, but clearly this is different than Big Little Lies where the whole cast returned. If White Lotus were in Limited Series it would have cleaned up at the next Emmys (as Season 2 did earlier this year at the Golden Globes), but now it has to go up against Succession and The Last of Us, much stiffer competition.
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

Interesting that Last Week Tonight with John Oliver isn't nominated in Outstanding Talk Series, the category it has dominated for years. I wonder if they didn't submit?
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

Originally Posted by Decker
Interesting that Last Week Tonight with John Oliver isn't nominated in Outstanding Talk Series, the category it has dominated for years. I wonder if they didn't submit?
Originally Posted by Internets
Last Week Tonight no longer qualifies as Talk series and will move to the Scripted Variety series category where it will face variety series, including sketch programs like Saturday Night Live, which had won the Variety Sketch Series Emmy for the past six years.


Originally Posted by Decker
It's weird that The White Lotus has migrated from Limited or Anthology Series to Dramatic Series. Only one character made it from the first season to the second. I am not sure what the rules are in this sort of thing, but clearly this is different than Big Little Lies where the whole cast returned. If White Lotus were in Limited Series it would have cleaned up at the next Emmys (as Season 2 did earlier this year at the Golden Globes), but now it has to go up against Succession and The Last of Us, much stiffer competition.
Season 1 was authentically intended to be a standalone thing. Season 2 and Season 3 having carry over characters and plotline from Season 1, I guess made them think it belonged in regular Drama.

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Why does Actor/Actress Drama and Comedy have differing amounts of noms?
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Why does Lead Actor/Actress Drama get 6 noms and Comedy only gets 5?
Emmys are weird, it's based on number of submissions. Can be up to 8.
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Originally Posted by Decker
Emmys are weird, it's based on number of submissions. Can be up to 8.
Seems unbalanced, but
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

Outstanding drama series

“Andor”

“Better Call Saul”

“The Crown”

“House of the Dragon”

“The Last of Us”

“Succession”

“The White Lotus”

“Yellowjackets”

Outstanding comedy series

“Abbott Elementary”

“Barry”

“The Bear”

“Jury Duty”

“The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”

“Only Murders in the Building”

“Ted Lasso”

“Wednesday”

Outstanding limited series

“Beef”

“Dahmer — Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story”

“Daisy Jones & the Six”

“Fleishman Is in Trouble”

“Obi-Wan Kenobi”

Outstanding lead actor in a drama series

Jeff Bridges, “The Old Man”

Brian Cox, “Succession”

Kieran Culkin, “Succession”

Bob Odenkirk, “Better Call Saul”

Pedro Pascal, “The Last of Us”

Jeremy Strong, “Succession”

Outstanding lead actress in a drama series

Sharon Horgan, “Bad Sisters”

Melanie Lynskey, “Yellowjackets”

Elisabeth Moss, “The Handmaid’s Tale”

Bella Ramsey, “The Last of Us”

Keri Russell, “The Diplomat”

Sarah Snook, “Succession”

Outstanding supporting actor in a drama series

F. Murray Abraham, “The White Lotus”

Nicholas Braun, “Succession”

Michael Imperioli, “The White Lotus”

Theo James, “The White Lotus”

Matthew Macfadyen, “Succession”

Alan Ruck, “Succession”

Will Sharpe, “The White Lotus”

Alexander Skarsgård, “Succession”

Outstanding supporting actress in a drama series

Jennifer Coolidge, “The White Lotus”

Elizabeth Debicki, “The Crown”

Meghann Fahy, “The White Lotus”

Sabrina Impacciatore, “The White Lotus”

Aubrey Plaza, “The White Lotus”

Rhea Seehorn, “Better Call Saul”

J. Smith-Cameron, “Succession”

Simona Tabasco, “The White Lotus”

Outstanding lead actor in a comedy series

Bill Hader, “Barry”

Martin Short, “Only Murders in the Building”

Jason Segel, “Shrinking”

Jason Sudeikis, “Ted Lasso”

Jeremy Allen White, “The Bear”

Outstanding lead actress in a comedy series

Christina Applegate, “Dead to Me”

Rachel Brosnahan, “The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”

Quinta Brunson, “Abbott Elementary”

Natasha Lyonne, “Poker Face”

Jenna Ortega, “Wednesday”

Outstanding supporting actor in a comedy series

Alex Borstein, “The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”

Ayo Edebiri, “The Bear”

Janelle James, “Abbott Elementary”

Sheryl Lee Ralph, “Abbott Elementary”

Juno Temple, “Ted Lasso”

Hannah Waddingham, “Ted Lasso”

Jessica Williams, “Shrinking”

Outstanding supporting actress in a comedy series

Anthony Carrigan, “Barry”

Phil Dunster, “Ted Lasso”

Brett Goldstein, “Ted Lasso”

James Marsden, “Jury Duty”

Ebon Moss-Bachrach, “The Bear”

Tyler James Williams, “Abbott Elementary”

Henry Winkler, “Barry”

Outstanding lead actor in a limited series or TV movie

Taron Egerton, “Black Bird”

Kumail Nanjiani, “Welcome to Chippendales”

Evan Peters, “Dahmer — Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story”

Daniel Radcliffe, “Weird: The Al Yankovic Story”

Michael Shannon, “George & Tammy”

Steven Yeun, “Beef”

Outstanding lead actress in a limited series or TV movie

Lizzy Caplan, “Fleishman Is in Trouble”

Jessica Chastain, “George & Tammy”

Dominique Fishback, “Swarm”

Kathryn Hahn, “Tiny Beautiful Things”

Riley Keough, “Daisy Jones & the Six”

Ali Wong, “Beef”

Outstanding supporting actor in a limited series or TV movie

Murray Bartlett, “Welcome To Chippendales”

Paul Walter Hauser, “Black Bird”

Richard Jenkins Dahmer, “Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story”

Joseph Lee, “Beef”

Ray Liotta, “Black Bird”

Young Mazino, “Beef”

Jesse Plemons, “Love & Death”

Outstanding supporting actress in a limited series or TV movie

Annaleigh Ashford, “Welcome To Chippendales”

Maria Bello, “Beef”

Claire Danes, “Fleishman Is In Trouble”

Juliette Lewis, “Welcome To Chippendales”

Camila Morrone, “Daisy Jones & The Six”

Niecy Nash-Betts, “Dahmer - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story”

Merritt Wever, “Tiny Beautiful Things”

Outstanding reality/competition series

“The Amazing Race”

“RuPaul’s Drag Race”

“Survivor”

“Top Chef”

“The Voice”

Outstanding talk series

“The Daily Show with Trevor Noah”

“Jimmy Kimmel Live!”

“Late Night With Seth Meyers”

“The Late Show with Stephen Colbert”

“The Problem with Jon Stewart”
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

Best Supporting Actor - Drama Series nominees are 4 Succession and 4 White Lotus Actors!
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

Not surprised it wasn't nominated, but the final season of Atlanta deserved a nomination.

Yellowjackets getting nominated for their terrible second season
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re: 2023 Emmy Awards discussion -- Show: 1/15/24 on FOX (Host: Anthony Anderson)

Was Silo precluded?

Cool that Jury Duty got a nomination.

How is The Bear a comedy series?

Not that I really care about the Emmys. It rarely makes sense to me, particularly since the nominees are based on one episode (submitted) as I understand it.
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Usually 30 minute series are Comedies and 60 minute shows are Drama series. There are exceptions (Wednesday this year, for example). And while there is a lot of drama in The Bear, it is also funny, and submitted as a Comedy series. Also remember these nominations are for Season 1 of The Bear, not the just-aired Season 2.
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Outstanding talk series

“The Daily Show with Trevor Noah”

“Jimmy Kimmel Live!”

“Late Night With Seth Meyers”

“The Late Show with Stephen Colbert”

“The Problem with Jon Stewart”
Woke Hollywood trotting out its all liberal agenda to lavish praise on the Trump-bashers.
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Just realized that Harrison Ford didn't get his first Emmy nomination for Shrinking. He deserved a nod.
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Usually 30 minute series are Comedies and 60 minute shows are Drama series. There are exceptions (Wednesday this year, for example). And while there is a lot of drama in The Bear, it is also funny, and submitted as a Comedy series. Also remember these nominations are for Season 1 of The Bear, not the just-aired Season 2.
Season 2 of The Bear should definitely be considered a drama. The ten episodes run almost six hours, and I don't think you could put together an hour of scenes that are entertaining because they are amusing.
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
Season 2 of The Bear should definitely be considered a drama. The ten episodes run almost six hours, and I don't think you could put together an hour of scenes that are entertaining because they are amusing.
It was sure as shit funnier than Barry this year though. Even NoHo Hank wasn't funny this year, once he left Dave & Busters.
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Funny, they basically broke up Talk Shows and Variety programs because Jon Stewart kept winning it. Now he's back and the dominate brand is John Oliver who has been moved back to Variety program (Which only has 3 entries, John Oliver, Black Lady Sketch Show and SNL.) I think it's time to re-merge the categories.

The only one of the actual Talk nominees I watch anymore is Seth Meyers so I'm glad to see him maintain his nom from last year.
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The Bear is not and never has been a comedy. Just because there might be things you laugh at here and there doesn't make it a comedy.
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The Bear is not and never has been a comedy. Just because there might be things you laugh at here and there doesn't make it a comedy.
The rules changed again last year. Run time is no longer a consideration. Basically the producer of the program gets to decide, with the Emmys reserving the right to change the categorization if they don't agree that it's "primarily comedic" or "primarily dramatic". I guess the producers of The Bear feel it's "primarily comedic".
Program Time Eliminated for Comedy and Drama Series Categorization
Categorization based on program length for a comedy or drama series has been eliminated. Episode length will no longer dictate submission categories. Instead, producers will now determine category submission, with the stipulation that the Television Academy's Industry Panel reserves the right to review the producer's preference. Comedy and drama series are defined as programs with multiple episodes (minimum of six) in which the content is primarily comedic for comedy series entries or primarily dramatic for dramatic series entries. In addition, the ongoing theme, storyline and main characters are presented under the same title and have continuity of production supervision. The exception is programming under 20 minutes, which must be submitted in short-form categories.
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I'm not sure how Jennifer Coolidge and Aubrey Plaza are supporting actresses for The White Lotus. I guess the position is there are no "leads" on the show.

I know this would never happen but I would prefer there be a limit to how many actors/actresses from one show can be nominated in a category. For example, I love Succession but half the nominees for lead actor are from that show. There are other actors who are just as good on TV but the slots are stacked because, shockingly, a good show got a bunch of good actors to be on it. It just makes it boring since fewer people/shows are recognized overall.

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I was surprised to see Brian Cox back in the running this year because....
Spoiler:
he's only in two episodes plus a couple of brief additional scenes.



Also I was surprised that Culkin and Snook sought Lead Actor nominations, as both have run in the Supporting categories in the past. Anyway, Supporting Actor is essentially a lock for reigning winner Matthew Macfadyen already. And maybe getting Snook out of Supporting will allow Rhea Seehorn to finally win her much-deserved first award, but who am I kidding, Jennifer Coolidge is gonna win again, in a new category.
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan
The Bear is not and never has been a comedy. Just because there might be things you laugh at here and there doesn't make it a comedy.
I've only gotten to a couple episodes of S2 so if this is based on S1, I could not agree more. It's extremely unfunny unless you are laughing at the number of times they scream out Yes Chef in an episode.

Hell, if anything, Succession is far more of comedy than The Bear. It's like 60 minutes of insult zingers back and forth.

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The rules changed again last year. Run time is no longer a consideration. Basically the producer of the program gets to decide, with the Emmys reserving the right to change the categorization if they don't agree that it's "primarily comedic" or "primarily dramatic". I guess the producers of The Bear feel it's "primarily comedic".
Or the Bear producers knew there was not a snowball's chance in hell of them winning in a Drama category that would automatically include Succession, Better Call Saul, and The Crown.
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
Or the Bear producers knew there was not a snowball's chance in hell of them winning in a Drama category that would automatically include Succession, Better Call Saul, and The Crown.
TLoU will win it this year, though.
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TLoU will win it this year, though.
I would be VERY surprised if Succession don't win Best Drama Series. TLoU will likely win a writing and Guest Actor prize for "Long, Long Time" though.

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