Writers Strike 2023
05-02-23, 01:12 AM
#51
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re: Writers Strike 2023
05-02-23, 01:22 AM
#52
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05-02-23, 01:27 AM
#53
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re: Writers Strike 2023
No, he’s talking about Corden leaving last week as opposed to this week or even a week from now. The writers contract officially expires at midnight tonight. So he must have bailed early anticipating a strike.
05-02-23, 02:08 AM
#54
DVD Talk Legend
re: Writers Strike 2023
one more year = exactly one year
05-02-23, 06:35 AM
#55
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re: Writers Strike 2023
But maybe Corden announced his departure on April 28, 2022, because he knew the writiers' contract was due up in a year, and wanted to get out before the strike.
05-02-23, 07:56 AM
#56
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re: Writers Strike 2023
I had a conversation with my sister many years ago and she said she enjoyed her job, but wanted more pay. I responded that EVERYONE wants more pay at their current job. Who doesn't want to be paid more? I would love a higher salary. But in the end, I evaluated the pros and cons of my career, accepted it, and I'm 100% happy.
Now, not everyone has to accept it like me. I understand, let them strike. It's their career, their choice. My opinion is to pursue a different career.
Now, not everyone has to accept it like me. I understand, let them strike. It's their career, their choice. My opinion is to pursue a different career.
That being said for the Bob Hearts Abishola one, what in the world happened? I'd have assumed SAG has strict rules about series regular and whatnot, unless they were just overly generous and had to claw it back or cut costs and this was the way to to do it without getting rid of cast.
05-02-23, 08:31 AM
#57
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re: Writers Strike 2023
A somewhat relevant clip, just replace "coffee shop worker" with "TV writer."
05-02-23, 08:44 AM
#58
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re: Writers Strike 2023
That being said, for the Bob Hearts Abishola one, what in the world happened? I'd have assumed SAG has strict rules about series regular and whatnot, unless they were just overly generous and had to claw it back or cut costs and this was the way to to do it without getting rid of cast.
https://deadline.com/2023/04/bob-abi...re-1235338560/
hear the cast members of the multi-camera sitcom, produced by Warner Bros. TV, were notified this week that only Gardell and Olowofoyeku’s series-regular options for next season will be exercised. The rest were offered to continue as recurring with a five-episode guarantee.
While reducing episodic guarantees — the number of episodic fees per season to which each series regular is entitled — is becoming more common amid industrywide belt-tightening, downgrading the entire cast besides the two leads to recurring is the most dramatic talent cost-reduction move yet and a possible indication of what’s to come as linear ratings continue to slide and the networks’ push to cut license fees continues to grow.
As Bob ❤️ Abishola actors are switching from series regular to recurring, the studio is waving exclusivity, so they can take on other TV jobs while being asked to notify producers of their availability so the writers can write the scripts accordingly....
The cast episode cut follows the double-digit license-fee reduction by CBS, which accompanied the Season 5 renewal. As Deadline reported, the trim was expected to impact cast’s pay.
Ironically, Bob ❤️ Abishola is headed into its fifth season, which traditionally is the time for casts to renegotiate contracts and get raises as a broadcast series can be sold in syndication after four seasons, bringing in off-network revenue....
The actors are able to stay at their Season 4 per-episode fees for next season, but the number of episodes has been reduced dramatically...
While reducing episodic guarantees — the number of episodic fees per season to which each series regular is entitled — is becoming more common amid industrywide belt-tightening, downgrading the entire cast besides the two leads to recurring is the most dramatic talent cost-reduction move yet and a possible indication of what’s to come as linear ratings continue to slide and the networks’ push to cut license fees continues to grow.
As Bob ❤️ Abishola actors are switching from series regular to recurring, the studio is waving exclusivity, so they can take on other TV jobs while being asked to notify producers of their availability so the writers can write the scripts accordingly....
The cast episode cut follows the double-digit license-fee reduction by CBS, which accompanied the Season 5 renewal. As Deadline reported, the trim was expected to impact cast’s pay.
Ironically, Bob ❤️ Abishola is headed into its fifth season, which traditionally is the time for casts to renegotiate contracts and get raises as a broadcast series can be sold in syndication after four seasons, bringing in off-network revenue....
The actors are able to stay at their Season 4 per-episode fees for next season, but the number of episodes has been reduced dramatically...
I do think the whole pay for cast/crew system has to be rethought. The idea that most can't renegotiate their pay until the 5th season or so, when even a major hit show is going to likely be seeing ratings decline some, is sort of counterintuitive. I think there should be a lot more revenue sharing, so if a show is immediately successful, the cast & crew see that immediate benefit, and decisions about renewals and pay raises wouldn't be so focused on extracting as much money upfront, but instead thinking what would best enhance the overall revenue of the show going forward.
05-02-23, 11:07 AM
#59
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re: Writers Strike 2023
They could probably do an episode of something like Saturday Night Live written entirely by ChatGPT. And it might be better than if they used real writers.
But I also the the other guilds like actors and directors would strongly object to a move like that.
A lot of shows like soaps, procedurals, and sitcoms are so formulaic that entire seasons could be written by AI and nobody would notice.
05-02-23, 11:50 AM
#60
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re: Writers Strike 2023
It'd be more surreal
05-02-23, 11:54 AM
#61
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re: Writers Strike 2023
I assume Last Week Tonight is done until the strike is over. Most of their stuff is written well in advance, but they always do a brief bit of a summary of the week's news. Plus I'm sure they want to support the WGA in the most visible way possible.
05-02-23, 12:26 PM
#62
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re: Writers Strike 2023
He also begrudgingly appeared on TDS during the strike to keep his work visa.
https://www.cc.com/video/ixq99m/the-...-on-the-strike
Now that he's a citizen, he doesn't have to stay working, so the show can go completely on halt.
Edit: It would be funny if Oliver had pre-recorded some web exclusives about the writers' strike, to be released as the strike goes on.
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05-02-23, 12:30 PM
#63
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re: Writers Strike 2023
Oliver didn't mention when the next episode would air at the end of the episode this past Sunday, like he always ends the show, so I would assume he also won't be back.
05-02-23, 12:32 PM
#64
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re: Writers Strike 2023
I remember 15 years ago we really only had network TV and a few notable cable shows as far as home entertainment goes. Now network TV is nowhere near as popular as it was then and streaming content took off, and probably most will just think...."Oh I still have 100+ unwatched shows on Netflix, HBO Max and Hulu etc. " No one is hurting for stuff to watch now in 2023. It would take multiple lifetimes now to get caught up on everything we wanted to see.
SAG and the DGA's deals are also up next month. I saw on the news last night some guy in Hollywood who owns a store that rents out production equipment to the studios for movie and TV shoots is going to get heavily impacted by this. And he says he just barely recovered from COVID shutting down productions. He says he's been super slow for a few months because filming is down due to anticipation of the strike.
If any shows on network TV are still filming right now, they probably are just wrapping up their seasons with already completed scripts.
SAG and the DGA's deals are also up next month. I saw on the news last night some guy in Hollywood who owns a store that rents out production equipment to the studios for movie and TV shoots is going to get heavily impacted by this. And he says he just barely recovered from COVID shutting down productions. He says he's been super slow for a few months because filming is down due to anticipation of the strike.
If any shows on network TV are still filming right now, they probably are just wrapping up their seasons with already completed scripts.
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05-02-23, 12:36 PM
#65
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re: Writers Strike 2023
It's alright guys, there's a new episode of Gutfield! on Fox News tonight.
05-02-23, 12:36 PM
#66
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re: Writers Strike 2023
In addition to more reaity tv content being Produced if the strike goes on for quite a while,I wonder if the Major network shows will start airring Overseas Imports. Especially AUS/NZ Comedies as a lot of them already produce 20 minute episodes which would slot into broadcast tv.
05-02-23, 12:37 PM
#67
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re: Writers Strike 2023
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/hou...73e828aa12daf1
House of the Dragon season 2's production won't be disrupted. The entire season was written.
House of the Dragon season 2's production won't be disrupted. The entire season was written.
05-02-23, 12:38 PM
#68
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re: Writers Strike 2023
so more strikes might be forthcoming...
05-02-23, 12:40 PM
#69
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re: Writers Strike 2023
In addition to more reaity tv content being Produced if the strike goes on for quite a while,I wonder if the Major network shows will start airring Overseas Imports. Especially AUS/NZ Comedies as a lot of them already produce 20 minute episodes which would slot into broadcast tv.
Canada has made some good shows over the years that were shown here like Flashpoint, Motive, Private Eyes, Travelers
05-02-23, 01:04 PM
#70
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re: Writers Strike 2023
Variety posted what shows and movies are immediately impacted. This article will probably be updated when they find out more.
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/tv-...73e828aa12daf1
Abbot Elementary: Season 3 writers room
Cobra Kai: Season 6 writers room
Yellowjackets: Season 3 writers room
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/tv-...73e828aa12daf1
Abbot Elementary: Season 3 writers room
Cobra Kai: Season 6 writers room
Yellowjackets: Season 3 writers room
05-02-23, 03:02 PM
#71
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re: Writers Strike 2023
But with our new streaming landscape, all bets are off.
05-02-23, 03:11 PM
#72
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re: Writers Strike 2023
Writers Guild of Canada told their members don’t take U.S. jobs.
No one is that stupid and be labeled a scab and get blackballed when they do reach a deal. I’m sure there are a lot of broke writers who need work and aren’t WGA, but no one would be dumb enough to cross a picket line.
One of the main sticking points is the studios want to kill the writers rooms and basically pay writers on a freelance day to day basis than actually being “staff” on a show. I agree with them that would make it impossible to live and work in Los Angeles or NY.
That would be like a staff IT guy getting his salary eliminated and only getting paid when you actually are called to fix something.
No one is that stupid and be labeled a scab and get blackballed when they do reach a deal. I’m sure there are a lot of broke writers who need work and aren’t WGA, but no one would be dumb enough to cross a picket line.
One of the main sticking points is the studios want to kill the writers rooms and basically pay writers on a freelance day to day basis than actually being “staff” on a show. I agree with them that would make it impossible to live and work in Los Angeles or NY.
That would be like a staff IT guy getting his salary eliminated and only getting paid when you actually are called to fix something.
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05-02-23, 04:08 PM
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Luckily I have a big backlog of unwatched shows on HBO/Showtime/Prime/Disney +, etc. that I can now catch up on. I'll miss the late night talk shows and SNL though.
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05-02-23, 04:19 PM
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^ That's kind of what I'm a little afraid of. In 2007, the strike really hurt the networks and left them without many alternatives for consumers besides reality TV and reruns, at what is normally peak content time. Now there's a ton of content available on demand for every home, and lots of content in the pipeline for months to come.
That, plus upcoming threats from DGA and SAG. I worry if there isn't nearly the pressure for the networks to come to the table soon and make some concessions to get a deal done this time.
I worry this will be a long, long strike.
That, plus upcoming threats from DGA and SAG. I worry if there isn't nearly the pressure for the networks to come to the table soon and make some concessions to get a deal done this time.
I worry this will be a long, long strike.
05-02-23, 04:26 PM
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I wonder if the networks who also have streamers ABC (Disney+), CBS (Paramount+), and NBC (Peacock) might show some older stuff from their streaming services if they can't pump out enough unscripted shows to fill the timeslots.
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