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Old 04-19-23, 04:02 PM
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re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Decker
What exactly is the WGA asking for? And who are they negotiating with? The Studios or the PGA?
Info on the strike is available here:
https://www.wgacontract2023.org/faq

From the FAQ:
Who does the WGA negotiate with?

The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) negotiates on behalf of all the major studios and hundreds of production companies.
From the Pattern of Demands 2023:
https://www.wgacontract2023.org/the-...ern-of-demands

COMPENSATION AND RESIDUALS

  • Increase minimum compensation significantly to address the devaluation of writing in all areas of television, new media and features
  • Standardize compensation and residual terms for features whether released theatrically or on streaming
  • Address the abuses of mini-rooms
  • Ensure appropriate television series writing compensation throughout entire process of pre-production, production and post-production
  • Expand span protections to cover all television writers
  • Apply MBA minimums to comedy-variety programs made for new media
  • Increase residuals for under-compensated reuse markets
  • Restrict uncompensated use of excerpts


PENSION PLAN AND HEALTH FUND

  • Increase contributions to Pension Plan and Health Fund


PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS AND PROTECTION IN THE EMPLOYMENT OF WRITERS

  • For feature contracts in which compensation falls below a specified threshold, require weekly payment of compensation and a minimum of two steps.
  • Strengthen regulation of options and exclusivity in television writer employment contracts
  • Regulate use of material produced using artificial intelligence or similar technologies
  • Enact measures to combat discrimination and harassment and to promote pay equity
  • Revise and expand all arbitrator lists
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Old 04-19-23, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Runaway
Quantum of Solace and Transformers 2 filmed without scripts. I never understood why though. There should at least be a first draft before they start shooting anything of this size.
It's a bit of hyperbole to say Quantum of Solace shot without a script. There was a script, but it wasn't finished/polished, and so revisions were made on the fly.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/enter...185503167.html
“We had a writer's strike. We had a script; it wasn't completed, but it was nearly completed. The movie kind of works. It's not Casino Royale, and that was always going to be… It was like, literally, troubling second album syndrome. In a way, we could not top Casino… It's easy to say that. Of course, we wanted to top Casino Royale, but, you know…” the actor added.
https://collider.com/daniel-craig-qu...ript-problems/
Craig: On “Quantum”, we were fucked. We had the bare bones of a script and then there was a writers’ strike and there was nothing we could do. We couldn’t employ a writer to finish it. I say to myself, “Never again”, but who knows? There was me trying to rewrite scenes – and a writer I am not.’

Time Out: You had to rewrite scenes yourself?

Craig: ‘Me and the director [Marc Forster] were the ones allowed to do it. The rules were that you couldn’t employ anyone as a writer, but the actor and director could work on scenes together. We were stuffed. We got away with it, but only just. It was never meant to be as much of a sequel as it was, but it ended up being a sequel, starting where the last one finished.’
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...080329018.html
Haggis reportedly submitted his Bond 22 draft, titled Sleep Of The Dead, just two hours before the strike began in November 2007, a year before the film’s release date.... By his own admission, Daniel Craig is not a writer. Yet he, Forster, and the producers were the only people allowed to fine-tune the script during filming. Accordingly, Quantum Of Solace makes shaggy work of its plot.

Happily, the strike ended during filming and writer Joshua Zetumer performed some uncredited work with actors on set, performing rewrites based on their ideas on the day.
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Old 05-01-23, 02:47 PM
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re: Writers Strike 2023

Strike could happen as early as midnight tonight.
Old 05-01-23, 03:40 PM
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re: Writers Strike 2023

I would say that Transformers 2 certainly felt like it was made without a script, but the same could be said of all of the other Transformers movies.
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Old 05-01-23, 03:42 PM
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re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I would say that Transformers 2 certainly felt like it was made without a script, but the same could be said of all of the other Transformers movies.
Not sure what you're getting at. That was filmed in 2008 way after the 2007 strike.
Old 05-01-23, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Not sure what you're getting at. That was filmed in 2008 way after the 2007 strike.
Michael Bay has said they had to film it with little to no script ahead of time because of that strike.
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re: Writers Strike 2023

I'm sure most casual observers of the entertainment industry don't really have a vesting interest in this possible strike. It's definitely not going to hurt us for content like it did 15 years ago, but of course it's going to affect other below the line staff.

But, this time around, I kind of hope the writer's do strike and stick it to the studios, who have been cheapening out and screwing them for years.

SAG union members are also getting screwed as well.

11 members of the comedy Bob loves Abishola got demoted to recurring guest stars from series regulars in order for the show to save money and get renewed

https://www.tvinsider.com/1090790/bo...season-5-cast/

So they all are going to take massive pay cuts. Ever Carradine was pretty mad about that situation.



No one wants to take a big pay cut to keep your job or sort of keep your job.
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Old 05-01-23, 04:14 PM
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Bob hearts Abishola has a massive cast for a thirty minute comedy. They had eleven series regulars take a pay cut. Eleven series regulars is a lot for a thirty minute comedy.
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Originally Posted by lwhy?
Bob hearts Abishola has a massive cast for a thirty minute comedy. They had eleven series regulars take a pay cut. Eleven series regulars is a lot for a thirty minute comedy.
I've never watched it, but holy shit, that's kind of insane if they had that many regulars. Most sitcoms seem to have a cast of four to six regulars, then recurring characters as needed. There's really no way that a twenty-two minute sitcom could service eleven characters in a way that justifies keeping all of those actors under contract as regulars.

I think The Conners has eight, and even then, some of them rarely appear,
Old 05-01-23, 04:56 PM
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They should probably quit and find a better paying career - like the rest of us civilians do.

My last job was brutal and the pay was hourly. I put in the time to find a different career, which is more rewarding and successful.
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Originally Posted by MLBFan24
They should probably quit and find a better paying career - like the rest of us civilians do.
I find this kind of comment insulting. It’s true Hollywood careers are not stable work. But these people are pursuing their goals and dreams from when they started learning their craft in college and film school. Not everyone wants a 9 to 5 office gig just because it’s a regular paycheck. I’ve been working in sports TV for 26 years, the last 12 freelance and love what I do. I don’t need or want a government job just because it’s stable. I’ve made friends and connections in my business and have always had work. I had to work very hard to get to where I'm at now and it didn't come easy. I paid my dues and earned some respect in my field. Being a movie or TV writer is a hard job. They deserve to be paid fairly. I know not everyone can make it and some move into difficult fields, but for those who do make it are being screwed over, they should be paid what they are entitled to.

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re: Writers Strike 2023

Writers get paid pretty well, but it's not much in comparison to others in the field and they don't get residuals any more due to streaming. During the 2019-20 TV season, the guild minimum for a writer-producer was $6,967 per week. In today's dollars, that would be $8,184, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' CPI calculator. To keep up with that in the upcoming contract, the WGA would need to negotiate a first-year increase of 10%

Average writer earnings in 2021: $260,000. Average earnings do not account for the sizable number of WGA members who, in any given year, earn nothing from writing.
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Old 05-01-23, 05:24 PM
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I had a conversation with my sister many years ago and she said she enjoyed her job, but wanted more pay. I responded that EVERYONE wants more pay at their current job. Who doesn't want to be paid more? I would love a higher salary. But in the end, I evaluated the pros and cons of my career, accepted it, and I'm 100% happy.

Now, not everyone has to accept it like me. I understand, let them strike. It's their career, their choice. My opinion is to pursue a different career.
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I will be pissed if there is no SNL in May and no new Fallon and Seth Meyers episodes.
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https://deadline.com/2023/05/writers...nt-1235353150/

No deal tonight. Strike fully expected tomorrow.

I assume this will immediately affect SNL, talk shows and soap operas. Network TV is in the brief offseason right now. HBO and streaming shows that are filming for later this year or 2024 will have to shut down.
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WGA officially tweets it. Strike is official as of Midnight


I guess all of tomorrow's talk shows will have to cancel their tapings with no writers.
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https://deadline.com/2023/05/writers...73e828aa12daf1

Effective tomorrow. All the late night shows will shut down.
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Serious question: Could ChatGPT write basic material for things like introductions for reality and sports shows?
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The WGA released a document with their proposals and the studios counter offers or rejections

https://www.wga.org/uploadedfiles/me..._proposals.pdf

They don't sound anywhere close to resolving their differences.
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Most reality shows don't use union writers anyway. Last strike, we got a winter season of Big Brother to replace regular shows on CBS. We're close to the normal time for Big Brother so that should happen as normal. CBS should have 2 seasons of Survivor, 1 season of Amazing, and maybe 1 or 2 seasons of Tough as Nails in the can which they'll have for the Fall. I don't think NBC would have any issue with running AGT through the summer as normal.
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So nothing but reality shows for a while? Guess I won't need to turn the TV until the strike is over.
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SNL will probably cancel their show this weekend as well.

Aside from talk shows, late night, SNL, this strike will really only affect shows currently in production or delay writers rooms for 2023-24. Daily soaps who are usually weeks ahead in filming will be affected.

Quantum Leap is currently filming season 2. They will have to shut down I assume.


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Would have been interesting if the strike had happened during James Corden's final week, and his show just stopped right there.
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So nothing but reality shows for a while? Guess I won't need to turn the TV until the strike is over.
Because you've seen everything on every streaming service already?
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If online video didn’t exist, I’d suggest the networks fill empty time by putting a camera somewhere in public and letting people do stuff in front of it.

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