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Old 02-25-23, 09:58 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Episode 2:

:The Bad":
- Nearly of the Raffi scenes again. Everytime she was on the scene (with one exception), I couldn't wait until it switched back to what was going on with Riker & Picard & The Titan.
- Some of Picard's son's behavior. He goes to all that effort to escape the brig just to turn himself over to the evil lady? Why not just open a channel to the captain and tell him that you want to surrender yourself to the evil lady. Captain Shaw would've beamed him right over, no hesitation.

"The Good":
- The Titan zooming in to break up the tractor beam looked amazing. If the show wants to do this "make the fans cheer" stuff in the show, at least do it well. And that scene was done very well.
- Worf's appearance: Wow, what an entrance! Seeing Worf in warrior mode is always a treat, given how sparingly it happened on TNG the series. I had to rewind and watch that scene twice in a row. I know that scene is intended to be candy for the fans, but when fan services works this well, I don't mind. Worf was the only good part of the Raffi scenes.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

I just hope that at some point, Vadic gets to scream "I’ll execute every one of you motherfuckers!"

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Old 02-26-23, 09:22 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Man, the Raffi stuff grinds everything to a halt, although the visuals of the temporal weapon were kind of cool. At least her handler/rescuer didnít turn out to be Elnor like I initially feared at the start of the ass-kicking.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

I just wish they didn't go there with Jack being Picard's son. Didn't we already get that with Kirk and David?
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Old 02-27-23, 12:39 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Originally Posted by devilshalo View Post
I just wish they didn't go there with Jack being Picard's son. Didn't we already get that with Kirk and David?
I'm ok with it as long as they don't kill off his son at the end of the season like they did with Kirk's son in Star Trek III.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Originally Posted by movieguru View Post
I'm ok with it as long as they don't kill off his son at the end of the season like they did with Kirk's son in Star Trek III.
My guess is that is EXACTLY what they are going to do. Or Picard is going to sacrifice himself to save Jack. One of them is going to die.
Old 02-27-23, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Xander View Post
My guess is that is EXACTLY what they are going to do. Or Picard is going to sacrifice himself to save Jack. One of them is going to die.
They seem to be trying to mirror a lot of stuff that happened in the TOS movies and to the TOS characters. If so, when Picard dies, he will be sacrificing himself for the captain of the Enterprise F which will end up getting destroyed at some point this season.
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They seem to be trying to mirror a lot of stuff that happened in the TOS movies and to the TOS characters. If so, when Picard dies, he will be sacrificing himself for the captain of the Enterprise F which will end up getting destroyed at some point this season.
As long as he's not killed by felled scaffolding.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Originally Posted by devilshalo View Post
As long as he's not killed by felled scaffolding.
He could die and the captain of the Enterprise F rushes up to him as he lies on the ground dying. Then the captain could say to him "Thank you for helping me stop Vadic". Then Picard would say "Least I could do for the captain of the Enterprise", followed by "Oh, dear!" or "Oh, merde!".
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt View Post
Did we NOT see that Jack Crusher was going to be Picard's son from the moment he was introduced? I mean in the first scene with Picard on Earth he said, "I don't want a legacy"...well, as soon as I saw Jack, I thought "Yeah, there's your legacy, Jean-Luc."

Yes, yes...We saw. But were/are still hoping there is a twist. It's a shit Baby Daddy story line that doesn't fit Bev and Jean Luc

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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

I watched the episode a second time and the Raffi scenes really are mostly terrible. The scene where she argues with her computer to drop a ton of exposition is probably the worst scene of the season so far. So bad, it was S1/S2 level bad.

And Jack Crusher so far is such a lousy character that I don't care if he lives or dies on the show. Just the way he talks to others sucks. I don't like him at all.

A reviewer I trust who has seen the whole season said that the first 4 episodes are a lot of setup and character introduction, but then starting in episode 5 and onward is when the season gets really good. So I expect 2 more mixed episodes of both good and bad stuff before it kicks into high gear and becomes mostly good.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo View Post
Yes, yes...We saw. But were/are still hoping there is a twist. It's a shit Baby Daddy story line that doesn't fit Bev and Jean Luc
I'm curious where the birth of their son fits in (post Nemesis of in between seasons 1 and 3). He looks too old to be only 21 years of age.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

I'm hoping we get some sort of a flashback of Beverly buns up kneeling.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

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I'm hoping we get some sort of a flashback of Beverly buns up kneeling.
Then I'd believe he's actually Worf's son. But seriously, Jean Luc always struck me as Asexual(nothing wrong with that BTW). Still, I can't see him going RAW with Bev.
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But seriously, Jean Luc always struck me as Asexual(nothing wrong with that BTW).
Except for Vash. And Eline. And Kamala. And Nella Daren. And Miranda Vigo.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

So why did Captain Shaw have a change of heart all of a sudden? He was adamant of giving Jack up until the son reveal. But it's not like Shaw showed any sort of empathy or respect to Picard prior. Is there some starfleet rule about family members?
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

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Except for Vash. And Eline. And Kamala. And Nella Daren. And Miranda Vigo.

Pfft. I have never bought any real sexual energy between JL and these women that they tossed in to pander to the Fanboy need to have a hero have a woman. I stand by what I said. Now, if you want to talk about the mild sexual energy between him and The Federation/Starfleet...
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Just wait until we find out that the real father is
Spoiler:
KIRK

somehow...
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Originally Posted by Giantrobo View Post
Then I'd believe he's actually Worf's son. But seriously, Jean Luc always struck me as Asexual(nothing wrong with that BTW). Still, I can't see him going RAW with Bev.
JLP always sort of set off my gaydar. Looking at it from a modern perspective, it seems like he was gay-coded: middle aged single man, fussy and fastidious, interest in art.

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Except for Vash. And Eline. And Kamala. And Nella Daren. And Miranda Vigo.
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Pfft. I have never bought any real sexual energy between JL and these women that they tossed in to pander to the Fanboy need to have a hero have a woman. I stand by what I said.
Yeah, all of the women they tried to set Picard up with never really had much chemistry with him and they felt awkwardly shoehorned in.

But that's a problem with TNG in general. None of the relationships, outside of maybe Will and Deanna, ever really had any chemistry or felt natural. And this includes all of Riker's conquests, that Trill guy Beverly was involved with for a single episode, Worf's Klingon baby mama, yadda yadda yadda. They were all just devices to drive whatever A- or B-story they were in.

And, or course, Geordi was an incel before incel was cool.
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JLP always sort of set off my gaydar. Looking at it from a modern perspective, it seems like he was gay-coded: middle aged single man, fussy and fastidious, interest in art.





Yeah, all of the women they tried to set Picard up with never really had much chemistry with him and they felt awkwardly shoehorned in.

But that's a problem with TNG in general. None of the relationships, outside of maybe Will and Deanna, ever really had any chemistry or felt natural. And this includes all of Riker's conquests, that Trill guy Beverly was involved with for a single episode, Worf's Klingon baby mama, yadda yadda yadda. They were all just devices to drive whatever A- or B-story they were in.

And, or course, Geordi was an incel before incel was cool.
Beverly had a lot of chemistry with that ghost, as did her grandmother.
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So why did Captain Shaw have a change of heart all of a sudden? He was adamant of giving Jack up until the son reveal. But it's not like Shaw showed any sort of empathy or respect to Picard prior. Is there some starfleet rule about family members?
Wasn't so much a change of heart. It was that a retired admiral could somehow over ride his orders and take command of his crew even when he wasn't able to do that in the prior episode.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

I wonder if the third episode title refers to how long it took JLP to get Beverly pregnant.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Shaw: (gasping for air)
Beverly: Are you having trouble breathing?



Also, random crew members giving Jack the stinky eye and whining to him itís his fault - thatís some great discipline right there.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Good third episode, but I wish there wasn't going to be such a huge connection to DS9. I've never watched that show much and am not familiar with the later seasons. I hope the plot is easy enough to follow without any extensive knowledge of DS9.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard (Paramount +) -- The 3rd and Final season -- Premieres 2/16/23

Picard being so adamant about staying to fight seemed out of character. He would fight if he had to, but he also knew when to get away.

Too bad we never got a Riker show. He is the best part of this by a country mile.

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