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Old 12-29-22, 11:28 AM
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I don't remember if that outside area was explicitly seen, but there was an episode when the owner of Melville's (the restaurant upstairs) had a spat with Sam over ownership of the dumpsters, so it could have been shown in that episode, or another one.
"Bad Neighbor Sam" S9E9. Not shown, I just checked.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I don't remember if that outside area was explicitly seen, but there was an episode when the owner of Melville's (the restaurant upstairs) had a spat with Sam over ownership of the dumpsters, so it could have been shown in that episode, or another one.
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"Bad Neighbor Sam" S9E9. Not shown, I just checked.
So the producers figured the audience would just use their imaginations about the existence of dumpsters without showing them? How much work are we supposed to do to make sense of this show? Did they think they were making The Wire?
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

I gotta say, I love the in-depth discussion of the bar logistics, since this is one of my favorite shows.

I remember a number of years ago on GameFAQs, people got into a heated argument about Seinfeld. There was an episode where Kramer saw something out his window and came over to Jerry’s to show him out of his own window. The OP wondered how Jerry and Kramer could each have windows on the same side of the building if they’re across the hall.

Then one dude started making ASCII drawings of both of their apartments (specially the window side) showing that it was indeed possible. This brings back those vibes.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I gotta say, I love the in-depth discussion of the bar logistics, since this is one of my favorite shows.

I remember a number of years ago on GameFAQs, people got into a heated argument about Seinfeld. There was an episode where Kramer saw something out his window and came over to Jerry’s to show him out of his own window. The OP wondered how Jerry and Kramer could each have windows on the same side of the building if they’re across the hall.

Then one dude started making ASCII drawings of both of their apartments (specially the window side) showing that it was indeed possible. This brings back those vibes.
I recall that someone tried to map out Seinfeld's apartment and they discovered that the layout would be impossible because his kitchen would be where the hallway should be.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by bluetoast
The only thing I notice missing from the diagram is a TV located in the bottom right corner of the main bar (where the fourth wall would be). It's not wall-mounted like modern TVs, but you know the type, when it's on a stand and hanging up in the corner. This was seen in the series finale when they were watching Diane on TV, and possibly in other episodes.
Oh, the TV was shown in several episodes; when Diane performed "Ode to a Chicken" on the local poetry show, watching Eddie Lebec play hockey, Frasier and Lilith's near pornographic television appearance, Norm, Cliff, and Cliff's mom making it to the stage on The Tonight Show (resulting in Carla dropping her tray), and of course, "I" on Sports.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Wasn't the gang watching Jeopardy on the tvwhen Cliff was a contestant? Or were they in the audience?

I remember the categories were "Civil Servants," "Stamps from Around the World," "Mothers and Sons," "Bar Trivia," "Beer," and "Celibacy."

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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by Paff
Oh, the TV was shown in several episodes; when Diane performed "Ode to a Chicken" on the local poetry show, watching Eddie Lebec play hockey, Frasier and Lilith's near pornographic television appearance, Norm, Cliff, and Cliff's mom making it to the stage on The Tonight Show (resulting in Carla dropping her tray), and of course, "I" on Sports.
I also remember them watching "It's a Wonderful Life" on that TV during the episode Christmas Cheers. Also watching Sam on commercials when he was dating that agent... I'm sure there are MANY more...
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

The third episode had them watching a Red Sox game with Carla getting extremely upset at their loss. It was mounted high on the wall towards the pool room.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by movieguru
I recall that someone tried to map out Seinfeld's apartment and they discovered that the layout would be impossible because his kitchen would be where the hallway should be.
Shit, I never noticed that, but it would seem to be the case.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by movieguru
I recall that someone tried to map out Seinfeld's apartment and they discovered that the layout would be impossible because his kitchen would be where the hallway should be.
I remember watching “Mad About You” when it originally aired and realizing that their bedroom and bathroom would extend far into the apartment across the hall.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by movieguru
I recall that someone tried to map out Seinfeld's apartment and they discovered that the layout would be impossible because his kitchen would be where the hallway should be.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

^ That Seinfeld floor plan also doesn’t match the exterior of the building.

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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
^ That Seinfeld floor plan also doesn’t match the exterior of the building.
It also doesn't match how things are presented in the show. Looks like they got creative with the hallway and slanted it in order to get around how the kitchen appeared to eat into the hallway.
The problem is that we've seen in multiple episode where Jerry can see his neighbors apartment down the hallway - which isn't possible if the hallway is slanted like the plan shows.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

That was a blueprint that someone created to try and make sense of the space in his apartment. There are hallway scenes however, that show a long, straight hallway and he has a neighbor right next to him on his side of the building. There's actually differing hallways in different seasons/ episodes. One minute it's one straight, long, hallway and the next it has a hallway that intersects with his hallway. They never took too much care in making sure the hallways were consistant in different episodes. I guess they never figures people would be watching it in detail with streaming and blue rays to pay enough attention to the details.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by bluetoast

I remember a number of years ago on GameFAQs, people got into a heated argument about Seinfeld. There was an episode where Kramer saw something out his window and came over to Jerry’s to show him out of his own window. The OP wondered how Jerry and Kramer could each have windows on the same side of the building if they’re across the hall.
Friends has a similar "creative liberties" problem with their floorplans.

Monica's apartment has a window over the sink that would look directly at the hallway/stairs or the bathroom... or some random triangular alcove that goes nowhere. Also the window layouts between the two apartments don't quite mesh. Joey and Chandler's rooms indicate they're on a corner somehow (windows are on opposite walls) but the interior doesn't jive with that and neither really work with the window layout of Monica's unless she's on a different corner of the building.

But set design has always been problematic when you break it down. I remember thinking way back when, Full House and Cosby Show's upper levels and stair placement didn't match the first floor plan at all. Cosby's stairs in the kitchen would run right into the stairs in the family room.
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Not to mention the actual space in those brownstone townhomes. The explanation I’ve seen from one of the showrunners is that they bought two and tore down a wall.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Jesus, how much would it cost to buy two of them?

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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

I forgot to mention that the bar itself has obvious studio/bright as hell lights lining the outside, which are clearly visible numerous times. And they seem out of place as in-set lighting, but somehow it doesn't matter.

And on the subject of lighting, a funny thing said on one of The Shield episode commentaries was that any time on any show/movie that you see one of those lamps with three lights that you can bend/etc, it's being used as a fast and easy way to light as well as decorate the set. They used it all the time in the clubhouse, but then you start to notice it in other sets.


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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by cultshock
Jesus, how much would it cost to buy two of them?
I’m assuming Claire got rich filing and defending frivolous lawsuits and Cliff spent his days charging for unnecessary medical expenses for his patients.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

It's been awhile since I've seen it but I recall that his doctor's office was in his basement at his home?
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by T-bone22
It's been awhile since I've seen it but I recall that his doctor's office was in his basement at his home?
Yeah, that's what I recall too.

Hey pregnant lady, come on down to my basement and we'll talk.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by T-bone22
It's been awhile since I've seen it but I recall that his doctor's office was in his basement at his home?
Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian
Yeah, that's what I recall too.

Hey pregnant lady, come on down to my basement and we'll talk.
I get where the joke is coming from vis a vis Bill Cosby's behavior, but that would actually make him appealing as a doctor. Meeting patients in a home office shows that he is family and locally oriented. Dr. Huxtable would likely get lots of patients from that area of Brooklyn just because he is accessible, and not sitting off in an office in medical building somewhere. I imagine (if it were IRL) Cliff received many off hours calls at home from anxious parents, and he could tell them to come by right then, and all he had to do was walk downstairs. Also, it was very often mentioned that he was "at the hospital," so that would be where he would do the medical heavy lifting.
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He was performing abortions down in that basement.

Between his regular OB/GYN practice and Claire's lawyering, that's where they got all of their money.
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Re: Cheers: Best Moments, Making of, and Who's on Day Shift?!

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
I’m assuming Claire got rich filing and defending frivolous lawsuits and Cliff spent his days charging for unnecessary medical expenses for his patients.
Oh shit, I though we were talking about Monica and Rachel's apartment, not the Cosby Show, I stupidly missed the part about brownstone townhouses.
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I get where the joke is coming from vis a vis Bill Cosby's behavior, but that would actually make him appealing as a doctor. Meeting patients in a home office shows that he is family and locally oriented. Dr. Huxtable would likely get lots of patients from that area of Brooklyn just because he is accessible, and not sitting off in an office in medical building somewhere. I imagine (if it were IRL) Cliff received many off hours calls at home from anxious parents, and he could tell them to come by right then, and all he had to do was walk downstairs. Also, it was very often mentioned that he was "at the hospital," so that would be where he would do the medical heavy lifting.
IIRC, we were also to assume his office had its own entrance from the street.

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