Count Dooku

Congratulations to me because I know the correct spelling of a great comedian's name that YOU posted that YOU loved?
Not certain how much pride I can take in being smarter than you, but I will accept your recognition. Thank you.

Draven

I maintain the average white MCU moviegoer does not know his real name is "T'Challa".

I do not think that movie made over a billion dollars because of any of those reasons.

I think the setting of Wakanda, the Black Panther armor and black representation on-screen are all far more important than any of those reasons for the movies success besides Boseman himself (which is obviously not fixable).

Everyone knows Boseman died in real life so no one is expecting a new T'Challa. I don't know why a new actor playing T'Challa would be important to anyone. Again, it's about the setting, the politics, the armor and Boseman and we can't have Boseman anymore.

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Oh, and I never said they SHOULD have recast. I'm saying that would have been the normal business decision.

And again, I don't think the name "T'Challa" is important at all to the continued success of the Black Panther series. In fact, I think another actor playing Boseman's character would be a huge distraction. They only reason they got away with it so early with Nortan/Ruffalo was because they were only a few movies in.

JeremyM

No offense but it's not our job as viewers to worry about that. I liked it, I can't worry about other people not getting it.

Artman

Out of sheer morbid curiosity I ventured into this thread, lol...somewhat surprised to see Black Panther enter the arena. It's a bold choice for sure to fold a real life passing into the MCU storyline, and I'm fascinated by how it will go over. (could work, could be a disaster) Yes, traditionally the recast would be the way to go...but over what I'm sure were many painful meetings they made the decision to lean into it. Not sure how this connects to She-Hulk, but I made my thoughts known in a few episode threads and bowed out...seems like I made the right decision.

MLBFan24

Bravo! Loved this finale. This show surprised me, as I originally had low interest in this series.

Creativity was off the charts, which is what I value the most from a TV series or movie. Writers brought their best for this show.

My top 3 Marvel shows are now:

Loki
WandaVision
She-Hulk

JTH182

Jesus, read the room man.

story

This entire series, especially the finale, was a lot of fun, I really liked it. I'll rewatch this, perhaps the first Marvel show that I'll rewatch so far just to enjoy it, not simply to catch up before the next movie.

windom

So I should change my opinion to match that of everyone else here?

Deftones

Your post was literally some incel shit. I am not saying you are. But when you call a TV character a "nasty female", that doesn't come across very well and gives insight to the type of things you believe in.

windom

What's wrong with being an incel?

whotony

Seriously though?

Deftones

Welp, no sense in furthering this discussion.

majorjoe23

Incel is a portmanteau for “involuntary celibate.” So someone who can’t get laid even though they would like to.

Someone might be celibate or asexual by choice. Nothing wrong with that. But if someone has their celibacy thrust upon them because of their own terrible choices, world views and opinions about She-Hulk, that seems like an issue.

Trevor

I’m more a DC guy, but have enjoyed all of the MCU both in film and TV from even before 2008. But this series, from beginning to especially end, was perhaps the most fun I’ve had the entire time. Perfect.

mndtrp

My wife and I enjoyed the show quite a bit. Emil's therapy group was hilarious, DD was awesome, and the finale was very funny. Tatiana is great, and I look forward to her showing up in more shows or movies.

While I haven't read the comics, any comics really, I'm aware of SheHulk's 4th wall abilities. I enjoyed when it happened, but like Dooku, do have some questions about how it will be incorporated in the future. I'm sure it will be fine, as Marvel is generally pretty good about wrangling the absurdity that comics have gotten into and making it palatable to the uninformed.

whotony

K.e.v.I.n. Said the glitch was closed.
Other then in a SheHulk tv show it isn’t likely we will see that again.

Count Dooku

I understand the other things you are saying in disagreement with me, but I am completely confused by your insisted comment that the name T'Challa is not important.
What's important was the person named T'Challa.
He was the character that the franchise was about. Another character can put on a suit and be Black Panther because that's all stunt people and CGI anyways. But the character of T'Challa is gone, so now the franchise is about an entirely different character, and that's a big gamble. It's like if Daniel Craig died, and they decided to promote Ben Whishaw's Q to 007, instead of recasting a new James Bond.

The reason you think replacing Boseman as T'Challa would be a distraction is because you recognize that audiences take these movies seriously, which was the whole point to begin with.

mndtrp

I took that to mean the glitch that allowed SheHulk to confront KEVIN was fixed.

edit: seems the head writer agrees.

https://www.superherohype.com/tv/520...o-make-a-cameo

"In a separate interview with Variety, Gao indicated that she’s not in favor of returning to K.E.V.I.N. any time soon.“I like when K.E.V.I.N. says that the glitch has been fixed, because I don’t want every character in the MCU to [be able to] confront him about their plotlines,” noted Gao. “So I’m hoping that it’s a one-time thing. We now know that it exists, but I don’t think that we should revisit it all the time.”"

tanman

This was a triumph. I'm making a note here huge success. It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

VinVega

I think there were some slow episodes at times in the season, but I have to admit, they really stuck the landing in the season finale. As a big Deadpool fan, the 4th wall breaks were great. The Kevin robot was brilliant and the self deprecating humor was really funny too. I wonder where they will go in season 2 and how they will tie She-Hulk into the movies?

dex14

dom56

Fun episode also sad to hear about Tim Roth's son dies from cancer.

RocShemp

Draven

Sorry I missed this and wanted to reply.

No, it's not. What was important was Chadwick Boseman playing Black Panther. That can't happen anymore, but it's not because a character named T'Challa HAS to be in the film. Boseman is gone and replacing the actor for a character who is only important BECAUSE OF BOSEMAN is pointless.

I actually think that's a fantastic idea. And Bond is a weird comparison, because that's a franchise built on pretending that James Bond isn't a code name but an actual person and consequently the whole thing is a mess continuity-wise. If they just said James Bond was a code name from the start (which they totally should have so I don't have to pretend that Daniel Craig and Sean Connery are the same person 60 years apart), then Q could easily take that on.

My point is that everyone would be pretending that "Not Chadwick Boseman" was playing the same character and everyone involved knows that Boseman died, so what is the point of pretending he didn't? Just make someone else the Black Panther because T'Challa "died" - you know, exactly what happened in Civil War already when T'Challa's father died. It's so much cleaner and makes a lot more sense from a continuity perspective too.

RocShemp

If that's how you feel, no roles should be recast. Terence Howard may not have passed away but Don Cheadle (the better Rhodie by the way) is nothing more than "not Terence Howard". Whoever takes over for Thunderbolt Ross (is the casting of Ford in the role official?) is merely " not William Hurt". The casting change might be mildly distracting at first, but if the performance is good enough the audience will roll with it. They should have given another actor the opportunity to portray T'Challa. It was never about Chadwick Boseman himself but rather the character that was headlining a major motion picture and the beginning of a franchise in its own right.

I know the conversation was not with me but it does irk me that no attempt was made to keep the character going. But, in any case, why isn't this conversation taking place in the Wakanda Forever thread over in the Movie Forum?​​