alfredog1976

“Get the f*ck out of my locker room!” 😂

alfredog1976

Also Dr. Buss’ death, the Buss family drama and Jeanie’s takeover of the organization

devilshalo

As depressing it was to watch Eps. 7... and the break up of the dynasty.. the deep dive into Bynum was really sad. Also, it was sad that, while there have been so many interviews with Kobe even after his retirement, it would have been something else to have heard him comment now about this.

alfredog1976

Had no idea about the many revelations about Bynum. I always had a negative view of Jim Buss and this made him look worse.

devilshalo

I didn't know that he came with all that injury baggage.. but looking at that draft, there weren't many big men to take at the 10 spot. Bogut & Frye was it.. Turiaf was their second pick. Not sure who they could have taken to include in a trade. They were stuck with Bynum at that point and found a way to make it work. I would have liked to know how much West was involved with the Gasol trade and what were his intentions because it was certainly lop-sided. For someone that they are portraying as one of the greatest basketball minds, this was a deal. Not that I'm complaining because it brought 2 championships.

alfredog1976

West did get a Gasol in the deal, maybe he saw potential there with his brother. But yeah, still lopsided deal. I still remember Stephen A. Smith saying after the trade, they got Pau for "NOTHING" (referring to Kwame Brown)

devilshalo

He wasn't wrong.. Kwame was terrible.

alfredog1976

Forgot about Crittenton, guy is in the slammer right now

DJariya

I saw episode 8 at Midnight today. Yeah I didn’t realize all the negativity and baggage that came with Bynum. I knew he was a raw talent, but I didn’t realize he barely played high school ball. Actually Bynum did develop into a pretty decent center later in his career. But he’s been completely MIA from the spotlight after the Lakers dumped him to the 76ers years ago. I wasn’t surprised to not see him here. I am glad that Odom participated.

One minor thing they glossed over. D Fish wasn’t with the Lakers during a portion of this time period. He left to play with the Warriors after the 2004 Finals and later joined the Jazz. He only rejoined the Lakers just prior to the 2007-08 season when they reached the Finals.

Whoever was the Grizzlies GM that period got ripped off. That was probably one of the best trades that Kupchak ever pulled off getting Gasol.

But yeah this film is sorely lacking having a present day Kobe share his thoughts. But then again, who knows if this series would have been made if Kobe was still alive.

I’m going to assume episode 9 next week will cover the last championship Kobe won in 2010, Dr. Buss’ death and the disastrous years including Jeanie’s hostile takeover.

and then the finale will cover Kobe’s decline, his retirement, LeBron, Kobe’s death and then the Covid bubble title.

devilshalo

Don't forget Phil's second retirement, the whole Chris Paul debacle that Stern quashed, Lamar going through depression when his name was on the trading table along with Pau. Metta World Peace.

devilshalo

Interesting that they don't even mention the Chris Paul trade. What if Stern did not veto that trade and it went thru? Would it have painted Jim and Mitch in a different light?

DJariya

Episode 9 focused mostly on the Buss family dysfunction. It sounds like there is still a lot of resentment. I wonder if Jeanie even speaks to Jim and John now.

I started to tear up a little when they said Magic and Pat Riley visited Dr. Buss on his death bed.

alfredog1976

Surprised they skipped over that but also surprised they skipped over those shit contracts he gave to Mozgov/Deng

Next episode is going to be hard to watch…

DJariya

Loved it. Great series and a great ending. I really hope the Lakers get number 18. But it’s unlikely to be this year. They jammed in a lot in that hour plus.

I did think they spent a little too much time on the extra Buss sibling “Lee” and go figure she was actually a full blood relative, but given up because the Busses were dirt poor when she was born.

I’m a little surprised Frank Vogel participated considering how he left the team. Maybe this was filmed before he was canned.

The Kobe death stuff was emotional. I’m not surprised Vanessa passed on talking about it.

overall this was a really well produced series.

alfredog1976

Wow did not see that coming relating to the Buss Family. I have 2 kids and would never think of putting them up for adoption, no matter the circumstances. Dr. Buss does not look good with these revelations. I'm glad Lee was able to forgive.

As expected, the Kobe part was hard to watch. Still can't believe he's gone.

Agreed, great series, hopefully another episode with banner number 18, but yeah, not happening this season.

TomOpus

My natural mom gave me up because she knew I would be able to have a better life with another family. I only wish I could've let her know that she made the right decision.

A parent must make the decisions for their child regardless how heartbreaking it is for the parent. You can't base decisions on what MIGHT happen in the future.

alfredog1976

I get that, but the Buss family did end up with a boat load of money. As a parent, wouldn't you do everything in your power to get that child, your blood, back? At least make an attempt (and I don't know what they did, but I highly doubt anything was done). Instead, Dr. Buss lived a lavish lifestyle with a revolving door of women. At the very least, let the kids you do have in your life know there's a Buss sibling running around in the world. And he couldn't even do that, too much shame, I guess. And you know what, YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT YOU SHOULD FEEL SHAME!!!

TomOpus

You missed my point. You don't know the future. You only can see what the situation looks like NOW. You have to make decisions NOW.

You're seeing it in 20/20 hindsight. If only that was possible in real life.