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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

It was good.
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Is what I will likely write.


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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

do Disney series' sometimes go live the night before?
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do Disney series' sometimes go live the night before?
This will be live at Midnight pacific and 3am your time. So the night before for me
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i'll set my alarm.
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

The episode is up. Hoping for a Don J review by 4 am eastern.
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

People are gonna hate me even more than they already do, but i didn't like that episode at all, the worst one of the four so far.

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That was a typically ridiculous in and out job. So easy going in, so easy going out, and the sudden appearance of ships to allow for the escape. Tala is just sitting there with other officers at the console directing Obi around and they're all within earshot. She ends up eradicating a couple of them. A later shot shows her sitting at the console with two officers still sitting there. C'mon. This whole series as it stands goes beyond the bending of canon to practically breaking it now. They'll have to drum up something in the last episode to make it all somehow fit.



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I'm genuinely stunned at how poorly made this show is, it really takes effort to be this bad.

Lol, 30 minutes! (minus intros and credits) Folks this thing is gonna be shorter than 4hrs. And we just repeated another rescue with Leia...at least a two hour movie would've wasted less of our time.

There really isn't much else to comment on, there was so little to this 'episode'.
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Some more rants....
Spoiler:
Cringe bad acting, writing for the Leia interrogation scenes.

We'd barely been introduced to the characters flying the Deux Ex Machina ships at the end, so why should we care when one of them doesn't make it back? It was a short episode so a couple of extra minutes spent with them could have fixed that.

Then there's the whole plot and main character motivation issue. Reva kidnaps Leia twice. The first time is designed to get Obi-Wan to rescue her. What is the basis for that assumption? The next time, apparently, the motivation is now to find information on the rebel base from Leia. So Reva isn't anticipating a raid by Obi-Wan but still leaves a tracker with Leia.

Very silly kiddy-like suspension of believability thruout the episode. Another "mission of the day" episode but far worse than any in-and-out missions seen in cartoons like Rebels, Bad Batch, or even Resistance.

And the canon more and more compromised.

The Tala at the console scene is perhaps the worst scene I've ever seen on any TV show....the level of unbelievability.

Only six episodes total and far too much time has been spent chasing and rescuing Leia. First the forest. Then Obi thru the Blade Runner city. Then thru the mining town. Then thru the fortress. They banked on little Leia being a Grogu, but it's bad they've copy-pasted a storyline from another recent SW tv show (TM). And so much screen time wasted on Reva. Deborah Chow bombing it.

So where can this story go now for two final episodes? They obviously have to take Leia back to the Organas, but that still breaks canon because if they kidnapped her once to get at Obi, then why would Vader stop now? Obi is fully exposed a whole 10 years shy of ANH. Everyone in the Empire knows he's alive, what he looks like, that he risks everything to rescue Leia. They're even tracking him now, so he'll end up on Tatooine after delivering Leia. So they'll easily close in on him now. Actually, why even put a tracker on Leia's handheld droid? It's obvious they're just gonna take her back to her parents on Alderaan. The tracker is pointless as the droid will end up back on Alderaan and not be in Obi's possession.

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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

So two episodes left. What a waste

Other than the
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Tombed Dead Jedi (which we were first introduced to Rebels)

there wasn't much else.

I think if you edited this series down to some key scenes/sequences, you might have a decent 15-20 mins that's enjoyable.
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I wouldn’t say I’m not enjoying this, but it has all been rather pointless so far.
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I wouldnít say Iím not enjoying this, but it has all been rather pointless so far.
They were probably better off creating a series that follows various Jedi (like Quinlan Vos) after Order 66 and maybe they run into Obi-Wan for a couple of scenes.
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

Oof. Sorry just canít stand Reva. Terrible dialogue. She literally used the phrase ďa bunch ofĒÖthis is how a Sith Inquisitor with Vaderís ear talks? The show is so damn lazy. I couldnít have imagined myself not watching a series based around Obi-Wan more than once but here we are. Not sure what can be done in 2 more eps to save it.
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Reva is atrocious. So where were her flashy parkour moves from the 1st episode? She was literally winded trying to chase down Kenobi there at the end!

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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

decent ep. lot of action. what a missed opportunity to go all A New Hope when Ben could have dressed up as a Stormtrooper and rescued Leia.
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Yeah, I wanted to give her the benefit of the thought... but holy shit her acting is atrocious, her running is terrible. How did she get this gig.
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

When Obi-Wan was infiltrating the Imperial base to rescue Leia, I was surprised he didn't brought along ten year-old Luke, R2-D2, C-3PO, along with Alden Ehrenreich's Han Solo and his fancy new Millennium Falcon since Disney likes to recycle so much shit from the movies we liked.

And then Darth Vader could track them all back to the Rebel base!

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I liked some of this episode, but Tala slapping a stormtrooper was laughable.

So far, the parts in this show are following the structure of Episodes I - IV in the films: Part I/Ep. I - There's a desert planet and royalty is kidnapped; Part II/Ep.II - Obi-Wan runs into trouble on a busy city planet; Part III/Ep. III - Obi-Wan and Anakin have a lightsaber duel, and one of them gets burned; Part IV/Ep. IV - Obi-Wan leads a rescue mission to get Princess Leia out of an imperial base. What's next? A snowy planet followed by a forest moon/return to Tatooine?

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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

Obi-Wan’s audience score on RT is pretty bad. 58%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/obi_wan_kenobi/s01
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just give us 6 episodes of Obi-Wan and Vader beating the shit out of each other. That's all we want.
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just give us 6 episodes of Obi-Wan and Vader beating the shit out of each other. That's all we want.
Thatís too easy. There are agendas to fulfill!
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

Leia screaming for help on a carrier full of Imperial officers, Storm Troopers and Darth Vader had to be the stupidest thing I’ve seen on this series Ben getting on board so easily was ridiculous too.

I’m really surprised this is coming from Deborah Chow. She was regarded as one of the best directors from The Mandalorian. This feels like very subpar work from her and the writers of this series.

and the episode was so short too.
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These episodes are being written by nobodies. Go look at IMDB. How the fuck did these people get this gig? Itís like Disney cheaped out on every aspect except paying Ewan. What an embarrassment.

Andrew Stanton (Pixar) has credits for eps 5 and 6 so maybe theyíll be better. Or too little too late.
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Some more rants....
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Cringe bad acting, writing for the Leia interrogation scenes.

We'd barely been introduced to the characters flying the Deux Ex Machina ships at the end, so why should we care when one of them doesn't make it back? It was a short episode so a couple of extra minutes spent with them could have fixed that.


Then there's the whole plot and main character motivation issue. Reva kidnaps Leia twice. The first time is designed to get Obi-Wan to rescue her. What is the basis for that assumption? The next time, apparently, the motivation is now to find information on the rebel base from Leia. So Reva isn't anticipating a raid by Obi-Wan but still leaves a tracker with Leia.

Very silly kiddy-like suspension of believability thruout the episode. Another "mission of the day" episode but far worse than any in-and-out missions seen in cartoons like Rebels, Bad Batch, or even Resistance.


And the canon more and more compromised.

The Tala at the console scene is perhaps the worst scene I've ever seen on any TV show....the level of unbelievability.

Only six episodes total and far too much time has been spent chasing and rescuing Leia. First the forest. Then Obi thru the Blade Runner city. Then thru the mining town. Then thru the fortress. They banked on little Leia being a Grogu, but it's bad they've copy-pasted a storyline from another recent SW tv show (TM). And so much screen time wasted on Reva. Deborah Chow bombing it.


So where can this story go now for two final episodes? They obviously have to take Leia back to the Organas, but that still breaks canon because if they kidnapped her once to get at Obi, then why would Vader stop now? Obi is fully exposed a whole 10 years shy of ANH. Everyone in the Empire knows he's alive, what he looks like, that he risks everything to rescue Leia. They're even tracking him now, so he'll end up on Tatooine after delivering Leia. So they'll easily close in on him now. Actually, why even put a tracker on Leia's handheld droid? It's obvious they're just gonna take her back to her parents on Alderaan. The tracker is pointless as the droid will end up back on Alderaan and not be in Obi's possession.

This series has its faults for sure. I agree about not caring about the random characters at the end. Waste of time. Yeah, the Empire would assume Leia will end up back on Alderaan, but I don't think Vader would automatically have her kidnapped again and again between this series and Ep. IV to draw out Obi-Wan because the Inquisitors frowned upon it for some reason when Reva did it, and holding her was considered dangerous when Vader did it in Ep. IV. (I think "dangerous" was the word used by the Imperial Officer who asked Vader about it at the beginning of that film, but it may have been another adjective.) I don't know what's dangerous about it, but the Imperial Senate was still in place during this show, so maybe appearances matter. Is Vader taking orders from Tarkin at this point in the timeline? Maybe Tarkin and/or Palpatine would tell him to leave the senator's daughter alone. Perhaps Reva put the tracking device in Lola because she's hoping to catch up to Obi-Wan and Leia before they reach Alderaan so that capturing them won't be as messy, politically speaking. Yes, the Empire put out a wanted poster for Obi-Wan, but the galaxy's a big place, and I doubt every stormtrooper throughout it is going to remember (or care) to keep a lookout for one dude everywhere they go. Once Obi-Wan parts from Lola, the Empire won't be tracking him anymore. Maybe the tracking device will be removed from Lola or she'll be lost or destroyed.
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Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (S1E04) - "Part IV" - 6/8/22

This show has no tension, we know Obi-Wan and Leia arenít going to die and the people who do we donít care about because theyíre inconsequential, so that makes the whole show inconsequential and pointless.



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