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Old 05-17-22, 01:46 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Going back to the season's opener, there's the coded black book but also that beanie Saul tried to bribe the clerk with.


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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

I am pretty sure Kim does not die. There is so many things that you can take as foreshadowing that I alternate between she was always there behind the scenes in BB to she uses the Vaccuum guy to hide. I think the latter is more likely. Sad thing is Howard's like is already ruined. A complete cuckold in a loveless marriage and all he has is his work and his stuff. I think it is an incredibly bold decision that Gilligan and company actually make Howard a pretty good person who makes some unfortunate but not malicious decisions that affect Jimmy and Kim poorly. It is mostly the brother's influence that caused Howard to do those things. So we are watching the "heroes" of the show intentionally destroy someone's life that does not deserve it. Unlike BB I think BB will have a happy ending and we see him reunited with Kim and living a simpler life, though it would not surprise me to see the show end with Jimmy and Kim doing one more spontaneous con after being reunited.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Originally Posted by philo View Post
Going back to the season's opener, there's the coded black book but also that beanie Saul tried to bribe the clerk with.

The crew on the podcast calls them "Preaster Eggs" and say that you will see things in that scene come into play all season long.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

I had to look up the actress who played Kim's mom because I swear I thought it could be Rhea Seehorn in makeup with her voice dubbed. Just dynamite casting. (Didn't fully realize this in the previous flashback she was in, since it was dark and she was inside her car.) And as others have mentioned, the girl who plays young Kim really has her mannerisms down.
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I had to look up the actress who played Kim's mom because I swear I thought it could be Rhea Seehorn in makeup with her voice dubbed. Just dynamite casting. (Didn't fully realize this in the previous flashback she was in, since it was dark and she was inside her car.) And as others have mentioned, the girl who plays young Kim really has her mannerisms down.
Yes that was fantastic casting. Funny related story I remember a review of Wall Street that said Martin Sheen was completely miscast as Charlie Sheen's father. I mean they have the same last name (sort of) even.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

I hope Sandrine Holt pops up in more episodes.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Originally Posted by rennervision View Post
I had to look up the actress who played Kim's mom because I swear I thought it could be Rhea Seehorn in makeup with her voice dubbed. Just dynamite casting. (Didn't fully realize this in the previous flashback she was in, since it was dark and she was inside her car.) And as others have mentioned, the girl who plays young Kim really has her mannerisms down.
Her voice was spot on, sort of creepy.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Originally Posted by rennervision View Post
I had to look up the actress who played Kim's mom because I swear I thought it could be Rhea Seehorn in makeup with her voice dubbed. Just dynamite casting. (Didn't fully realize this in the previous flashback she was in, since it was dark and she was inside her car.) And as others have mentioned, the girl who plays young Kim really has her mannerisms down.
I was shocked as well. The look and sound was perfect. There has to be some funny Stuff going on because it was way too perfect
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Originally Posted by johnnysd View Post
I think it is an incredibly bold decision that Gilligan and company actually make Howard a pretty good person who makes some unfortunate but not malicious decisions that affect Jimmy and Kim poorly. It is mostly the brother's influence that caused Howard to do those things. So we are watching the "heroes" of the show intentionally destroy someone's life that does not deserve it.
Back at the beginning of the series, Howard actually wanted to hire Jimmy to work at HHM, but Chuck wouldn't let him. So Howard is sort of collateral damage in the war between the brothers.

I don't know if Jimmy would have turned out better had Howard hired brought him into the firm, but things would have certainly turned out differently.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

I never would’ve guessed at the beginning of the series I would ever feel sympathy for Howard. But after watching that scene with his wife, I’m gonna feel bad after whatever terrible thing they have planned for him.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

I just re-watched this episode, and I think I know what Saul and Kim's plan is, and how it's going to go disastrously south...

I'm going to spoil this in case it's too on-the-nose (I got bawled out in a Game of Thrones thread when I figured out how season six would end)...

Okay, here it goes...

Spoiler:

The drug they get at the vet's is for Howard. They're going to slip the drug to Howard so he'll freak out during the mediation.

Part two involves the double of the judge with the broken arm who is mediating the Sandpiper case.

Saul had photographs of himself taken -- that he is in possession of -- meeting with the judge and passing envelopes. This makes it look like the judge is accepting a bribe from Saul Goodman.

Now here's the part we don't know about. Either the PI Howard hired to spy on Saul is actually working for Saul and will show the photographs to Howard right before the meeting (and shortly after he's just ingested the drug), or Saul has his own guy who will pretend to be working for the PI that will show the photos to Howard. So either the PI is working for Saul, or if he isn't, the real PI still won't have any idea what Howard is on about with the incriminating photos. After Howard freaks out at the arbitration and accuses the judge of accepting bribes, the photographs will disappear and never be seen again, or they will be have been switched out for something more mundane involving Saul (or the judge), and Howard will look like a raving lunatic. This throws the Sandpiper case into chaos, and they have to settle.

And here's where the plan goes awry.

Either someone else is going to ingest the drug (Cliff?) and/or it's going to have unintended consequences when used.

I think they're going to end up inadvertently killing Howard.

At the vet, the drug was rubbed on Saul's skin. Kim was holding a large bottle, and asked if he used enough while he was testing it on Saul. When asked about the drug, the vet responds "Depends on how used you are to caffeine... Like a couple of cans of Red Bull on an empty stomach."

This is important BECAUSE...

Pay close to attention to the scene at Howard's house. He's shown making his wife a cup of espresso with the cute peace sign, and while we're looking at that, Howard is preparing a cup of tea for himself. Howard doesn't drink coffee because he is hypersensitive to caffeine.

They're going to slip Howard too much of this stuff and send him into cardiac arrest.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Think your prediction is pretty likely to play out...
Spoiler:
Good catch on him drinking tea and the espresso being for his wife. I definitely get the feeling he will die or be severely injured by it. And I have a feeling Kim is going to be the one that pours it in his drink, making her be the one legally on the hook for whatever the consequences are.

The judge having a broken arm ruins all the pictures they took of the fake bribe. I think the plan was to get those slid into the PI's packet of photos and Howard to see it and freak out (without the PI having any knowledge of it). Then they take the pics out and Howard rants about it in court but there's no evidence those photos ever existed, and the PI testifies to having never seen it either. But now that the photos can't pass for real because they didn't shoot them with the double having a broken arm... I think maybe they panic and try to double the dose they give Howard. And bye bye Howard. Which will be a hell of a cliffhanger.


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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

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Going back to the season's opener, there's the coded black book but also that beanie Saul tried to bribe the clerk with.

Awesome philo - great find
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Somebody on Reddit has already decoded the book.

There’s a link in the comments here where they translate everything you can see there.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

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The crew on the podcast calls them "Preaster Eggs" and say that you will see things in that scene come into play all season long.
I searched for this podcast on YouTube & couldn't find it. Could you post a link please?
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

It's in the S6E1 Episode of the Better Call Saul Insider Podcast.

‘Better Call Saul’ Season 6 Prologue Has Easter Eggs That Will Make Sense Later

Better Call Saul Season 6 opened with a cryptic prologue. Movers were clearing out a house full of Saul Goodman artifacts. Sharp-eyed fans may have spotted some Better Call SaulEaster eggs from past seasons, but creator Peter Gould and episode director Michael Morris say there are Easter eggs you won’t even recognize until later. Morris appeared on the Better Call Saul Insider Podcast with Gould on April 19, the day after Better Call Saul Season 6 premiered. They explained how some of the prologue’s Easter eggs would pay off later in the final season.

‘Better Call Saul’ Season 6 may include the first ever ‘Prester Eggs’

Gould told fans to look closely at the Better Call Saul Season 6 prologue. He also asked them to remember some of the things they were seeing.

“This teaser is chock full of Easter eggs, both from previous seasons, but also, I don’t know what you call them, Prester eggs?” Gould said on the Better Call Saul Insider Podcast. “There are things you’re seeing in this teaser that will make much more sense to you later in the season because that’s how we roll.”

Morris recommended revisiting the prologue at the end of Better Call Saul Season 6.“It’s worth watching the teaser again once you’ve watched the whole season, for sure,” Morris said.

Check the edges of the screen in the ‘Better Call Saul’ Season 6 prologue

Morris elaborated on how he filled the Better Call Saul Season 6 prologue with Easter eggs. It wasn’t just about hiding them in the background. It was about moving them throughout the frame so viewers only got a glimpse.

“The Easter eggs alone was one of the most fun parts of plotting this and that was right up to the minute,” Morris said. “We would do a take and then we would realize we could cram something else in so we would throw another Easter egg in and make sure that Matt [Credle], holding that camera, would just catch something as it went off onto the right. It was an extraordinary experience to be able to make a sequence like that, a massive honor to me and wildly unusual in that there’s no dialogue. It is a completely visual experience.”

The house itself was almost another Better Call Saul Easter egg, too. Gould eventually ruled it out
Our original idea in the writers room was that this would be the house that Jimmy and Kim looked at, the empty house when they went house shopping last season. We thought wouldn’t it be great if he had bought the house he and Kim had looked at. We went there, we scouted the house and it was just too restrictive. It was such a wonderful idea to use that same house. I held onto it probably a little bit longer than I should have but as soon as we released that, then there were so many more options and possibilities. There were so many things that weren’t scripted or that became scripted once we found the location, for instance the swimming pool.
Peter Gould, Better Call Saul Insider Podcast, 4/19/22

The ties pay homage to the Cinnabon flash forwards

Better Call Saul Season 6 is the only season that does not begin with a flash forward to Gene Takovic (Bob Odenkirk) working at Cinnabon in black and white. Morris devised an opening shot of a box of Saul’s ties to pay homage to the black and white tradition.

“That was an idea I think I had early on, probably holding onto my jealousy about not starting in black and white,” Morris said. “I wanted the idea that we were slightly wrong footing everybody. That we would start the season as always in black and white but then color would invade it. So there’s no visual effects in there of any kind. There’s no editorial effects either. What we did was we got a bunch of black and white ties.”
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

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https://twitter.com/bbcs0/status/152...jMGRhKy3JU964w

Somebody on Reddit has already decoded the book.

There’s a link in the comments here where they translate everything you can see there.
For better or worse Reddit is everything the Internet was promised to be. Really cool decoding-fu there.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

And this totally went unnoticed by me on Monday, but ouch.
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Awesome.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

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And this totally went unnoticed by me on Monday, but ouch.
https://twitter.com/odenhead/status/...JEmT3RR9yodO0g

What exactly are we supposed to notice?
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Re: Better Call Saul (S6E06) - "Axe and Grind" - 5/16/22

Maybe it's symbolism of Kim and Jimmy's fate?
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The axe seemingly cleaving them apart. Just a clever symbolic cut.

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