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Mike86 01-08-22 09:18 AM

Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...760675ded1.jpgDexter and Harrison try to live a normal life in a place that they have discovered is not as normal as they thought it was. Will the two of them be able to live happily ever after, despite all the threats coming their way?  Season finale.

Showtimeís official synopsis describes this as the season finale as seen above. Not sure if it is actually returning for a second season or not. I suppose it depends on how the episode ends.

RichC2 01-08-22 10:55 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
They have been tip toeing around and refer to it simply as "Finale", no Season or Series qualifier.

mickey65 01-08-22 01:19 PM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
I read the spoilers on this one this morning by those lucky enough out in Australia to see it first...and I won't say any more.

Josh-da-man 01-08-22 05:04 PM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 

Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 14037311)
I read the spoilers on this one this morning by those lucky enough out in Australia to see it first...and I won't say any more.

I went a-spoiler huntin' on twitter, and all I have to say is... -ohbfrank-

dex14 01-09-22 12:01 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
I guess it was better than what we got at the end of the originally series… but I didn’t really feel any sort of way about this ending.

I guess that is why they been cryptic about coming back for another season. I feel like Hall’s answers to those questions were telling.

Mike86 01-09-22 12:11 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
That wasÖ underwhelming. Iíll spoiler things for the time being.

Spoiler:
Going into this episode I really really didnít expect Dexter to die. Just didnít feel like thatís what they were setting up.

Everything just happened so fast. First Angela piecing together that Dexter must be the Bay Harbor Butcher. Then of everything in the burnt mess of Dexterís cabin Angela just happens to pick out the medical screw from Matt almost instantly. Barely even looking and ďoh what do we have here?Ē -rolleyes-

As the episode progressed with Dexter in custody things were clearly falling apart and he didnít have a way to get out of the situation. I was really thinking though: ďoh so weíre going to get a season or so of Dexter on the run.Ē

Then he goes and kills Logan. Absolutely stupid that they had him do that. The old Dexter wouldnít have done it and would have tried to find a way to weasel out of his predicament.

I think the whole season was basically him losing his mind and he got to his breaking point, but I really didnít like that turn. Not even just that he did it, but it just felt kind of like a cheap way to get Harrison to turn on him.

After Dexter killed Logan I pretty much figured he would die somehow. It made sense for Harrison to have done it since he looked up to Logan and would be upset over Dexter killing an innocent.

Dexterís death.. eh. Not much to really say about it. I liked the flashbacks to all the innocent lives he was responsible for. I didnít want that ending even if itís what the character deserved.

All in all a better ending to the show than what we originally got, but still not entirely satisfying. I canít say that this season completely let me down, but is it really what I wanted to see after ten years? Not really.







Jeremy517 01-09-22 12:20 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
The episode is available on Showtime streaming now, but I guess I'll use spoiler tags since it hasn't aired on the Showtime channel yet.

I don't think the ending was very good. Better than the original ending I guess, but still botched.

Spoiler:
Harrison killing Dexter wasn't unexpected and would have been fine, just not the way it went down. For Harrison to kill Dexter and have it make sense, Harrison would have had to do it by surprising Dexter and then put Dexter on his own kill table, similar to how Dexter put all his victims on his table. That is what I was expecting after Dexter killed Logan.

Instead, Harrison gives a speech about how Dexter was what is wrong with him and that he won't end up like Dexter, then Dexter says he wanted to be a good father and asks Harrison to kill him? Way to ruin your kid's life further and make him be a murderer when he might not have gone down that road after all. If Dexter decided that he had to die there, he should have just killed himself instead. Making Harrison do it made no sense.


Mike86 01-09-22 12:28 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Spoiler:
I heard a rumor that two endings were filmed for this. Wonder if thereís any truth to that at all. Not that it matters as this is what aired and whatís officially canon, but Iím curious if there was an ending where Dexter doesnít die.

Mike86 01-09-22 12:37 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
This is a show where as much as I like it itís so damn frustrating. Just because it could have been so much better. I guess weíll always have those first four seasons.

New Blood was just very okay. Sad to say that Iím disappointed in another finale of this show.


Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 14037582)
The episode is available on Showtime streaming now, but I guess I'll use spoiler tags since it hasn't aired on the Showtime channel yet.

I don't think the ending was very good. Better than the original ending I guess, but still botched.

Spoiler:
Harrison killing Dexter wasn't unexpected and would have been fine, just not the way it went down. For Harrison to kill Dexter and have it make sense, Harrison would have had to do it by surprising Dexter and then put Dexter on his own kill table, similar to how Dexter put all his victims on his table. That is what I was expecting after Dexter killed Logan.

Instead, Harrison gives a speech about how Dexter was what is wrong with him and that he won't end up like Dexter, then Dexter says he wanted to be a good father and asks Harrison to kill him? Way to ruin your kid's life further and make him be a murderer when he might not have gone down that road after all. If Dexter decided that he had to die there, he should have just killed himself instead. Making Harrison do it made no sense.









Spoiler:
Very true as well. Harrison is already fucked up. First his mother is murdered, and then he has to kill his father.

Dexter should have just killed himself or he should have just walked away from Harrison and had a confrontation with Angela or Batista or other cops and been killed by one of them instead.

What was even the point in having Batista be in this episode? Just so he got his moment of truth about Dexter being the Bay Harbor Butcher? Such a damn waste.

Also regarding Angela and Harrison. Sheís covering for him presumably as a way to kind of pay Dexter back for giving her the location of the runaway victims. Not sure exactly why Harrison needs to be on the run if sheís taking the fall for killing Dexter. No other witnesses were there.



philo 01-09-22 01:06 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
FFS. All these years and this is the best they could come up with? Yeesh. Fool me once...

Mike86 01-09-22 01:16 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Also Iím ranting at this point but..

Spoiler:
Angelaís call to Batista she says there have been a series of murders similar to those of the Bay Harbor Butcher. Ummm.. what? Thereís no bodies or proof to lead her to that conclusion.

The only things she has are the needle marks, which sure are similar, but only the one drug dealer was found dead and had that mark. He also wasnít hacked up in Dexterís normal style.

Itís not like a bunch of dismembered bodies were discovered to lead Angela to believe the Bay Harbor Butcher is in Iron Lake.




windom 01-09-22 01:28 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Wow, they've all published the coverage of this episode at the usual TV news sites. Usually they wait until after the episode actually airs. Glad I was able to watch it already.

DJariya 01-09-22 02:02 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Better than the original series ending. But hardly a “break the internet” type ending as Clyde Phillips teased last summer.

Koby 01-09-22 03:59 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Well I guess that answers the question as to if we should expect a season renewal or not.

dex14 01-09-22 07:20 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
‘Dexter: New Blood’ Boss On Shocking Finale; Teases Possible New Season
https://deadline.com/2022/01/dexter-...rs-1234906655/


SPOILER ALERT: This interview reveals major storylines from the finale of Showtime’s Dexter: New Blood.
Spoiler:
When Clyde Phillips met with Michael C. Hall about returning to the role of Dexter Morgan in what would become Dexter: New Blood, he already knew the serial killer’s life would end.

Hall signed up without hesitation.

Fans of the hit Showtime series Dexter, which ran eight seasons from 2006-2013, rejoined the former Miami Metro blood spatter analyst —now known by the alias Jim Lindsay—and have enthusiastically tuned in to watch his final adventure unfold. And though that journey has now come to an end with his shocking death, the beloved franchise may continue to expand with a little help from his progeny, Harrison Morgan (Jack Alcott).

Phillips spoke with Deadline about whether death was the only conclusion on the table for Dexter, the status of a possible continuation, and what happens to Chief Angela Bishop (Julia Jones) after the show ends.

DEADLINE: Did Dexter have to die at the end of New Blood or did you have other ideas?

CLYDE PHILLIPS: Yes. We knew this had to happen, and I think it had to happen for the audience as much as for the character. To see him get caught time and time again and get out of it at a time and time again is a disservice to the audience. And I think there’s a certain truth in this storytelling, in authenticity in the storytelling.

So early on when I went to go and speak with Michael, it was about two and a half years ago in early July 2019, I told him my ideas. We met after I received a call from Showtime president Gary Levine who told me they were interested in revisiting this. Michael gave me a big hug and told me, “I’m in.” He knew how this would end.

DEADLINE: How do you feel New Blood completed Dexter’s story?

PHILLIPS: How often does a show get to do a second finale? I think the answer is never. With the bad taste that the original finale left in everybody’s mouth, we had this rare opportunity to redeem the show and to give the audience the respect it deserves, the authenticity it deserves, and the gratitude for sticking with us. The numbers have been exploding for Showtime, I think we’re their No. 1 asset. I’m so humbled by that.

DEADLINE: Knowing how strongly fans feel about this series, there will be some who will hate the finality that Dexter’s death will bring. What do you say to that?

PHILLIPS: Well, it’s interesting. You should know that I lurk a lot on social media. Maybe I have too much time on my hands? [laughs] But everyone has a different sort of opinion. Some people say the end of Season 8 was great. Some people said it’s the worst thing they’ve ever seen. Some people have guessed exactly what’s going to happen. Some people think that Harrison isn’t really Harrison and that the person we see killed the real Harrison. Some people think Harrison killed Hannah [Yvonne Strahovski]. There’s got to be a panoply of opinions. So I just can’t take it personally. We’re ready for anything.

DEADLINE: In the finale, Dexter is shot by Harrison and he is bleeding out, but the viewer doesn’t see he’s definitely dead. Can you confirm so there is no doubt left?

PHILLIPS: I have three words for you: Dexter is dead. I wouldn’t do that to the audience. It would be dishonest. Here, there is no question that this is the finale of Dexter. Dexter is dead.

DEADLINE: Harrison shared parts of his life in New Blood but there’s still so much we don’t know about him. Do you want to tell more of it in a continuation?

PHILLIPS: As I mentioned, this show is a huge asset. When people start bingeing this after the finale, I’m confident the numbers will continue to go up. It’s up to Showtime to make the call to me if they want more. If they ask me if I’d like to make a continuation of this, I would say yes. I have a lot of things going on but I would drop everything for this and say yes in one second.

DEADLINE: What would a continuation look like?

PHILLIPS: Harrison is such a complicated character and he has within him the seeds of the dark passenger. He’s capable. Look at that takedown of Dexter in the end, what’s in Harrison is that he has to kill this man.

Also, Harrison brings a different perspective to the vigilantism of it all than Dexter did, which was kind of surprising to Dexter. He brings this youthful, optimistic innocence, that he and his dad are basically Batman and Robin. Think of every time we take out one of these bad guys how many lives we’re saving, that this bad person is not going to kill. Dexter never thought of that. Dexter was only taking out bad guys because that was his code.

DEADLINE: Harrison helps Dexter realize he has become the evil he wanted to rid the world of. How does that help Dexter accept his fate?

PHILLIPS: Yes. He helps him see that he is a villain. When Harrison yells at Dexter and tells him, “Open your eyes and see what you’ve done.” He has those flashbacks of all the innocent people who died because of him like Doakes (Erik King), Deb (Jennifer Carpenter) and LaGuerta (Luna Lauren Velez). People who, if Dexter wasn’t who he was, would still be alive. He’s talking to an addict, basically.

Harrison could’ve done a number of things. And Dexter was either going to get shot in the front or in the back.

When Dexter says, “I’ve never felt real love until now,” that’s a huge breakthrough. Remember when he tells Deb in the second season that if he were capable of love, she would be the one. But now he is capable of love. She was his step-sister, this is his son. It’s a real awakening for him. He gives Harrison permission and tells him where to shoot him. With his dying breath after he’s shot he says, “You did good.” It’s absolution for what Harrison’s done.

DEADLINE: And Deb is right there.

PHILLIPS: Yes. Originally, I had written that scene to show Dexter pulling his hand away from Deb. But Jennifer said while we shooting, “What if I pull my hand away and release him?” That’s what we ended up using. It was much more powerful.

DEADLINE: What can you tease about Angela and Harrison’s lives after the episode ends?

PHILLIPS: With Harrison, we don’t know. But with Angela, if you recall, she calls in an officer-involved shooting. She’s going to say that she had to take out Dexter because there’s lots of evidence he murdered Logan (Alano Miller) and because Dexter is the Bay Harbor Butcher. And Dexter probably killed Matt (Steve M. Robertson), though she’s not sure she can prove that.

I think Angela’s decision to let Harrison go was born of the horror that she had just witnessed. Her whole life has been this missing persons board and now all these women are dead. She needed humanity and maybe for maternal instinct to take over for justice—just this one moment of grace.

We know that the FBI and CSI and all of these people are coming to town and she’s going to have to deal with all of that. She’s going to have to talk about Dexter and she’s gonna have to talk about Logan. She’s probably going to lie and say she had to kill Dexter in self-defense.

Let’s not forget, this was her lover. She trusted this guy and she could’ve been another victim.


Mike86 01-09-22 09:45 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Spoiler:
I get what heís saying about certain aspects. As much as I didnít want it as a fan Dexter dying does make sense.

I still think a lot of aspects of this season were poorly written/rushed though.

Also I have little interest in a Harrison show at this point. Not really sure what it would be about or if heís an interesting enough character to carry a show.

tiloup13 01-09-22 10:41 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
The only way a new season with Harrison would work would be to have Dexter at his side and that's not gonna happen now. He's not interesting enough by himself to lead the show.

New Lurker 01-09-22 10:55 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14037595)
Better than the original series ending. But hardly a ďbreak the internetĒ type ending as Clyde Phillips teased last summer.

My thoughts exactly. I liked this ending far better than Season 8. I also thought this episode was the best of the season. Just really good tension building. But now that we see the series as a whole, it was pretty bland and predictable. Still enjoyed it and very much prefer this ending. But man it could have been so much more creative.

Case in point I saw one person's prediction to the ending that I am just accepting as the true reason for this season. I'll spoiler it so people don't read this far superior ended before watching the actual show ending lol.
Spoiler:
Iron Lake isn't a city. It's a prison. The reason they show Kurt in medical scrubs while working on his kills is because he is actually the medical personnel administering the lethal injection to Dexter. This fan prediction goes on to tie every single character from this season into a person from the prison during Dexter's death. This season is all a fever dream hallucination stemming from the injection.

Kurt is the one administering the injection. Angela is the head prison guard Dexter has a crush on. Teddy & Logan are the other prison guards. The rich oil tycoon they only show a couple times is the warden. Molly Park is a real reporter witnessing the execution to write a story about it. Angela's daughter is actually Astor. Ethan that got stabbed is actually Cody. They are watching the execution next to Harrison in the viewing room. The moment the white deer gets killed is the second the shot is injected. When Harrison shoots Dexter in the heart that's the moment his hallucinations end and he comes conscious again right before the moment of death and locks eyes with Harrison. It's a sadness that feels like getting shot through the heart.

The video goes into even more depth tying things together that happened this season and fits them into the hallucination. It's pretty wild. It fits so well I am just assuming this is what the show runner intended. And he just went so subtle with and chose not to reveal it. It just makes way too much sense to not be the real ending. Now if we get more Harrison seasons that blows my theory out of the water. But man what could have been. Just seeing quick cut shots of all the reveals flashing through before his heart stops. Just would have been perfect.



stingermck 01-09-22 11:14 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Whew this finale is getting drug just like Season 8.
Spoiler:
Fuck Harrison. I hated him since day 1, when they had the worst child actor in the world playing him. Current one sucks too. No way he can carry his own show.

Dexter killing Logan was sloppy. No way he would have done that. But Harrison needed motivation!

Killing Dexter, what a waste. And if Harrison had to do it, there are more creative ways.

And super cop from BFE solves the BHB case when no one else could?




New Lurker 01-09-22 11:18 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
As far as more seasons...
Spoiler:
I literally can't come up with a single compelling idea to make more seasons work. Harrison doesn't know the code and kind of rejected killing. He also hates Dexter and killed him so he can't be the Harry for Harrison. I mean maybe he stays in Iron Lake and becomes a cop putting away the serial killers the right way? Not exactly very Dexter like. Maybe he moves to Miami and looks up Astor & Cody and one or both of them know the code like in the books? Doesn't really work from the pieces we have on the board currently.

Just don't see how they can continue with more seasons without Dexter. The Harrison actor just isn't strong enough to draw people in without an exceptional story. And they just don't have one left in this universe.



stingermck 01-09-22 11:22 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Michael C Hall, stop speaking directly to me :lol:
Spoiler:
He added, “People moaned about an ending that was admittedly open-ended and without any sense of closure. He flashed a Dexter-like smile: “I guess you have to be careful what you wish for.”

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...-c-hall-finale



Mike86 01-09-22 11:36 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
In all honesty comparing the two finales while I had issues with the original finale now in hindsight I almost like it a tad bit more for the fact that it was more unpredictable.

Season eight was shit and I get why some people didnít like the finale, but to me having Dexter end up all alone kind of worked. The new finale was more expected.

stingermck 01-09-22 11:42 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
Batista's inbox:





dsa_shea 01-09-22 11:42 AM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 
That interview says the entire season takes place over two and a half weeks. Way too many things happen in that short amount of time for it to be anything close to plausible.

stingermck 01-09-22 12:45 PM

Re: Dexter: New Blood - Sins of the Father - (S1E10, Season Finale) - 1/9/22
 


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