The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Season 4 premieres this week (9/22) with a live episode. Not a fan of those with any show, but looking forward to this returning. I wonder if they'll bring back a studio audience this year. Also, I thought for sure they'd move it back to Tuesday nights given it dropped significantly in the ratings on Wednesday. If it maintains those low number or drops even lower, there is no way they'll bring it back for another season.
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I'm looking forward to it. I really like this show. I keep wondering when they are going to release it all on DVD, along with that "last" season of Roseanne before she was killed off the show.
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Originally Posted by mickey65
(Post 13985031)
I'm looking forward to it. I really like this show. I keep wondering when they are going to release it all on DVD, along with that "last" season of Roseanne before she was killed off the show.
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
(Post 13985047)
BTW, that "last" season of "Roseanne" has been streaming on Peacock for a while. Along with Seasons 1-9. I've watched it again twice. Such a shame what happened. It was so good.
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Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Originally Posted by Daytripper
(Post 13984953)
Season 4 premieres this week (9/22) with a live episode. Not a fan of those with any show, but looking forward to this returning. I wonder if they'll bring back a studio audience this year. Also, I thought for sure they'd move it back to Tuesday nights given it dropped significantly in the ratings on Wednesday. If it maintains those low number or drops even lower, there is no way they'll bring it back for another season.
I know not everyone owns a DVR, but a truly popular show will bring its audience with it. Home Improvement and Seinfeld both were moved around and retained their audience, and that was pre-DVR days. I'm thinking it's the loss of Roseanne (especially since she was canned due to "cancel culture") and the subsequent retooling of the show that makes Sara Gilbert's Darlene essentially the lead character of the show that drove away many of the old school viewers. |
Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Originally Posted by Paff
(Post 13985130)
Pretty sure we've had this conversation before, but I simply fail to see how Tuesday vs. Wednesday night makes such a drastic difference in ratings. Friday, that I can see, as it's always been considered a ratings graveyard (although with the pandemic and everyone staying home, I think a well-performing show could still thrive on Fridays).
I know not everyone owns a DVR, but a truly popular show will bring its audience with it. Home Improvement and Seinfeld both were moved around and retained their audience, and that was pre-DVR days. I'm thinking it's the loss of Roseanne (especially since she was canned due to "cancel culture") and the subsequent retooling of the show that makes Sara Gilbert's Darlene essentially the lead character of the show that drove away many of the old school viewers. https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/t...n-two-ratings/ https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/t...three-ratings/ |
Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
The drop-off in ratings is indeed interesting, though I'd have to wonder if it's correlation and not causation. I mean, the numbers don't lie but I can't see why a show would perform on Tuesday but not Wednesday. It's not like there's some sports draw like Monday Night Football or some major ratings juggernaut to contend with like say, Friends back in the day. And especially since it was during the pandemic when television viewership was up in general. Modern Family was a top show in the exact same spot, so it's not like a comedy at 9PM on Wednesday on ABC can't generate ratings. I really do think it must be something else.
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Originally Posted by Paff
(Post 13985181)
The drop-off in ratings is indeed interesting, though I'd have to wonder if it's correlation and not causation. I mean, the numbers don't lie but I can't see why a show would perform on Tuesday but not Wednesday. It's not like there's some sports draw like Monday Night Football or some major ratings juggernaut to contend with like say, Friends back in the day. And especially since it was during the pandemic when television viewership was up in general. Modern Family was a top show in the exact same spot, so it's not like a comedy at 9PM on Wednesday on ABC can't generate ratings. I really do think it must be something else.
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Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Originally Posted by Daytripper
(Post 13985047)
BTW, that "last" season of "Roseanne" has been streaming on Peacock for a while. Along with Seasons 1-9. I've watched it again twice. Such a shame what happened. It was so good.
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Those video chats were an awful idea.
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Katie Sagal is such a perfect fit for this show!
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No Lecy?
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What flubs did y'all get on your performances? For the West Coast feed, biggest one was by DJ's daughter (don't remember the actress' or character's name), I think it was her only line of the show, too.
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Please, no more live shows. They are just way too awkward. And yes, those live video chats were awful.
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I watched the first episode. I thought they were done with these live show gimmicks. It was an interesting idea 25+ years ago, but it wore off quickly and is just awkward.
What's up with those video chats? Were the people on the other end contest winners or something? |
Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Originally Posted by mickey65
(Post 13987830)
Katie Sagal is such a perfect fit for this show!
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Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 13989445)
I watched the first episode. I thought they were done with these live show gimmicks. It was an interesting idea 25+ years ago, but it wore off quickly and is just awkward.
What's up with those video chats? Were the people on the other end contest winners or something? |
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They probably should have done a 15-20 second announcement before the show that those video clips were non actor contest winners so viewers would understand why those clips were just boring,needless and tonally weird.
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I agree, those random Conner clips were pointless. Who thought that would be a good idea when they were clearly unscripted and the young actors fielding the calls obviously are still not seasoned enough to mine comedy gold out the boring responses they were given.
Also missed Lecy and the latin guy who fathered her child...but I guess this cast is already big enough? I was really hoping they would be writing out Ben because his relationship with Darlene is just boring and nauseating. Don't know why they think it would be entertaining to watch those two twist in the wind. It was more interesting when they seemed to be exploring why Darlene is so fucked up and having her do some self realization like they did with Becky's alcoholic slut phase. Still enjoy watching every week for Katie, John Goodman and Laurie Metcalf no matter who else revolves in or out of the cast.... |
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I really enjoyed tonight's episode. Was it just me or did it feel like all of the performances were more dialed back this week? That's been my biggest criticism and gripe with the entire reboot (both "Roseanne" and "The Conners"). Everyone has always over projected. But not tonight. The show has never felt more grounded IMO. I also really enjoyed Patton Oswalt and Jason Alexander. This could be my favorite "Conners" to date.
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Seriously? I thought it was terrible and I'm considering dropping the show. It was just so ham-handed and out of character, the fact that they're trying to make the Conners Christians, and acting like Roseanne was a devout Christian the entire time. In all honesty, I think it's to regain viewers who didn't like Roseanne (the actor) getting "cancelled", and I remember a lot of comments from viewers who were very unhappy that Roseanne (the character) died of a drug overdose, saying it was not in character for her to be a drug user, that was more like Jackie. Yes, they were saying this despite the single-season return of Roseanne (the show) already had her using Oxy.
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Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Originally Posted by Paff
(Post 13991100)
Seriously? I thought it was terrible and I'm considering dropping the show. It was just so ham-handed and out of character, the fact that they're trying to make the Conners Christians, and acting like Roseanne was a devout Christian the entire time. In all honesty, I think it's to regain viewers who didn't like Roseanne (the actor) getting "cancelled", and I remember a lot of comments from viewers who were very unhappy that Roseanne (the character) died of a drug overdose, saying it was not in character for her to be a drug user, that was more like Jackie. Yes, they were saying this despite the single-season return of Roseanne (the show) already had her using Oxy.
Other than that, I thought it was a pretty decent show. There was a couple of LOL moments for me...at least. |
Re: The Conners (ABC) - Season 4 Thread
Originally Posted by Paff
(Post 13991100)
Seriously? I thought it was terrible and I'm considering dropping the show. It was just so ham-handed and out of character, the fact that they're trying to make the Conners Christians, and acting like Roseanne was a devout Christian the entire time. In all honesty, I think it's to regain viewers who didn't like Roseanne (the actor) getting "cancelled", and I remember a lot of comments from viewers who were very unhappy that Roseanne (the character) died of a drug overdose, saying it was not in character for her to be a drug user, that was more like Jackie. Yes, they were saying this despite the single-season return of Roseanne (the show) already had her using Oxy.
I would like to add that not only does "The Conners" get a big fat F for continuity from the original series, but one for itself too. It the very first episode of the reboot, the one right after Roseanne died, Jackie took on a project where she reorganized the entire kitchen. Removing everything from the cabinets and drawers. She would have found Roseanne's bible then. It also seems far fetched that no one else in that family found it all these years. That drawer is right next to the stove. Did no one rifle through there while cooking looking for anything? Really dumb writing. |
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
(Post 13991530)
I will say this, I do know people of zero faith who have turned to God and the church when they feel all else has failed.
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I don't watch the show but saw a few seconds the other night. WTF happened to John Goodman? He looks like he could keel over any minute.
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