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Old 05-10-22, 04:23 PM
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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

Originally Posted by windom
It's kind of weird they picked an actor from a pornographic show to play the Doctor, but I guess they already did that with Matt Smith too.
What?

Sex Education is a coming-of-age comedy. If there's a pornographic show out there with Gillian Anderson and Emma Mackey on it, please point me in that direction.
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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

Originally Posted by dex14
What?

Sex Education is a coming-of-age comedy. If there's a pornographic show out there with Gillian Anderson and Emma Mackey on it, please point me in that direction.
So there's no graphic nudity/sex on it? I figured with that title and being on Netflix that that would be the case. Otherwise, why watch it?
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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

Originally Posted by windom
So there's no graphic nudity/sex on it? I figured with that title and being on Netflix that that would be the case. Otherwise, why watch it?
Yes, there is nudity and sex on it...just like there is on countless other shows. That doesn't make it "pornographic".
"Why watch it?" Because it is good. It is one of Netflix's most critically acclaimed shows.
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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

Queer as Folk. That's the one where Jax Teller was Littlefinger's twink, wasn't it?

Actually, either one of them probably wouldn't make a bad Doctor Who, either.
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Well Davies does seem to be interested in fan service. The article doesn't explicitly state it, but it seems likely they'd be part of a 60th anniversary special.
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You didn’t hear who they cast as the new “Rose”?

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Originally Posted by Gizmo
You didn’t hear who they cast as the new “Rose”?
I thought you just were being snarky, but they did just cast someone to play a new Rose.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/hea...er-1235268305/
Yasmin Finney is joining the cast of “Doctor Who” as a character named Rose, BBC announced Monday. Her role will debut in 2023, coinciding with the show’s 60th anniversary.

“Life on ‘Doctor Who’ gets brighter and wilder, how can there be another Rose?” said “Doctor Who” showrunner Russell T. Davies in a statement. “You’ll find out in 2023, but it’s an absolute joy to welcome Yasmin to the ‘Doctor Who’ set. We all fell in love with her in ‘Heartstopper,’ one of those shows which changes the world — and now Yasmin can change the Whoniverse!”

...while who exactly Finney’s Rose character is remains uncertain. Billie Piper originated the role of companion Rose Tyler alongside the ninth Doctor, played by Christopher Eccleston, in 2005. Finney could be playing a new version of that same character, or someone completely new.
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I'll wait and see how that plays out, but as a very big fan of Billie Piper and Rose, I am not thrilled about the idea... that is... if she is actually playing Rose Tyler... which some sites did report (even Variety had Tyler in the headline earlier), but I haven't seen it actually say that is the case from the official channels.
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Originally Posted by dex14
I'll wait and see how that plays out, but as a very big fan of Billie Piper and Rose, I am not thrilled about the idea... that is... if she is actually playing Rose Tyler... which some sites did report (even Variety had Tyler in the headline earlier), but I haven't seen it actually say that is the case from the official channels.
Im VERY excited to read reviews when this new season starts (minus any special episodes with old Doctors). I just can’t imagine ANY of this working well, but neither did the last Doctor (even though she’s a fantastic actress).

BBC needs to leave this show alone for a few years and reboot it.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
BBC needs to leave this show alone for a few years and reboot it.
What do you mean by "reboot"? Like, start from scratch, with a new First Doctor? Because with a new showrunner (albeit returning) and new actors, it's pretty much as close to a reboot as the show has ever done.
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What do you mean by "reboot"? Like, start from scratch, with a new First Doctor? Because with a new showrunner (albeit returning) and new actors, it's pretty much as close to a reboot as the show has ever done.
Ninth Doctor/Rose reboot. Let the dhow remain dormant for a bit of time.
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
What do you mean by "reboot"? Like, start from scratch, with a new First Doctor? Because with a new showrunner (albeit returning) and new actors, it's pretty much as close to a reboot as the show has ever done.
More white, clearly.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Ninth Doctor/Rose reboot. Let the dhow remain dormant for a bit of time.
That seems like such a weird place to revert back to though. Are you saying you don't like any of the show from 2005 on, and want it all replaced? Like, what's the point of replacing the part of the show the vast majority of current fans remember, while retaining fidelity to the classic show that has waning popularity? If you're going to reboot, why not from square one?

Also, why does the show have to go dormant? Do you think not doing it for a while revitalizes creativity in some way? How? RTD already took a 12-year break from the show, so that should've recharged his creative juices, right? Or do you think audiences are just burnt out on it?
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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

I think there could be some audience burnout for sure. A pause of a couple years, like actual pauses and not just huge gaps between filming specials, could recharge both audience and the people making the show. Let it sit with itself and just be for a bit.
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Regarding audience burnout, maybe, but the complaints from the audience seems to be "the show was bad recently," not "the show is as good as it ever was, I'm just not interested anymore." Maybe there's something to be said that once some of the audience is viewing it negatively, they'll look at new episodes or news regarding the show negatively as well, since they're already in that mindset. So a break could maybe be an "absence makes the heart grow fonder," where some distance from new things to hate will cause them to remember the good parts of the show, and then look forward to a revival.

Regarding "recharging the crew," the show gets new cast and crew every few years. Moffat's DW was basically a new show compared to Davies previous run, and Chinball's was the same compared to Moffat's. Maybe there's some longer running staff in terms of key grips and such, but the big things that most visible affect the show, the showrunner, the writers, the actors, all reset regularly. That's a problem in itself, since the show basically become significantly different every few years, and so an existing fan may not actually like the changes. But I don't really see how a hiatus on the show production will ensure the new team taking it on is any fresher than if they just took on the show immediately after a previous team left it.

And I'm not sure there's any real examples of deliberately stopping a show with the intention to pick it up again in a few years that has worked to a show's advantage. First off, it seems very rare, if not unprecedented. The vast majority of the time, when a show is ended, there's no existing plan to revive it. And then, looking at shows that were revived later, it seems very hit or miss in terms of results. The most notable comparison would be maybe Star Trek, where both the shows and movies were ended due to low performance, only to be revived a decade or so later. But the JJ Abrams Star Trek films have very mixed reactions from fans, as have the shows Discovery and Picard. So it's not like shelving Doctor Who for a few years will in any way ensure that a later revival will be to current fans' liking. Don't forget that DW experienced its own failed revival attempt in 1996, 7 years after it was canceled, with the backdoor pilot Doctor Who TV movie.
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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

Originally Posted by dex14
I'll wait and see how that plays out, but as a very big fan of Billie Piper and Rose, I am not thrilled about the idea... that is... if she is actually playing Rose Tyler... which some sites did report (even Variety had Tyler in the headline earlier), but I haven't seen it actually say that is the case from the official channels.
The rumor going around is that this Rose is
Spoiler:
Donna’s daughter.


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Re: Doctor Who (BBC America) -- Series 13 Discussion Thread -- premieres 10/31/21

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The rumor going around is that this Rose is
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Donna’s daughter.




I hope not. Her parents were perfectly cast already and tied into some good storylines.
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Ohhhhh, there's another Rose? Sorry, missed that part.
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That’s soon. I expect to be very underwhelmed, but maybe it will be good.

Is first new Dr episode back with Davies? Any chance it’s Christmas? Or are they just going straight with spring (when the original reboot premiered)?
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Originally Posted by Superman07
Is first new Dr episode back with Davies? Any chance it’s Christmas? Or are they just going straight with spring (when the original reboot premiered)?
You're going to have to wait over a year.

https://parade.com/1383565/klconniew...who-season-14/
When will Doctor Who season 14 premiere?

Season 14 of Doctor Who with Ncuti Gatwa will premiere Nov. 23, 2023. Why the long wait? The date is significant as the original series premiered on that date back in 1963. To celebrate the 60th anniversary and the special episodes they have for the jubilee, several actors from past Doctor Who series will make appearances.
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I have so much catching up to do. I haven't even watched any of Peter Capaldi's run yet!
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That’s soon. I expect to be very underwhelmed, but maybe it will be good.
Since Chibnall's tenure has been consistently awful, I'm expecting very little from this.

I only hope that Davies can right the ship, but I fear that Chibnall burned so much down with that Timeless Child nonsense that it's a lost cause.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I have so much catching up to do. I haven't even watched any of Peter Capaldi's run yet!
I tuned out when Clara became the new companion, but I doubt I'll bother to play catch up. Wasn't really feeling the show back then and it seemed like a good time to bail.

The only episodes I've seen since were the 50th anniversary special and that boring New Year's episode where they pointlessly brought back Captain Jack as a bit of fan service. I'll try jumping back in once the new Davies series starts. His previous tenure as show runner was the only time I was into this show.

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