2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
07-13-21, 03:07 PM
#26
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
As long as he didn't submit the performance I have no problem with it. I assume Disney doesn't want their talent to torpedo their new Streaming channel's Emmy nomination count.
07-13-21, 03:50 PM
#27
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Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Why would Cheadle veto his emmy nomination? In what world would any actor do that unless they absolutely hated the movie/show they were in.
07-13-21, 03:57 PM
#28
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Edit : And Matthew Perry didn't want to be considered a Lead Actor on Friends.
07-13-21, 04:15 PM
#29
DVD Talk Hero
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Of the 112 nominations in the Drama/Comedy/Limited Series categories, and Acting in those Series categories, just 21 went to the Big 4 broadcast networks. If you take out Saturday Night Live, it's 11.
I know this is not news --that the legacy networks are no longer interested in producing high quality programming for a mass audience, but I feel like after 2020, with so many more people turning to streaming and subscribing to multiple services, that broadcast TV really is at its most irrelevant place in history.
As a cable-cutter, I think the only thing I REALLY care about having access to NBC, ABC or CBS for is live news and live sports. It makes me sad since I grew up in the era of the Big 3, when the entire country watched the same shows at the same time.
I know this is not news --that the legacy networks are no longer interested in producing high quality programming for a mass audience, but I feel like after 2020, with so many more people turning to streaming and subscribing to multiple services, that broadcast TV really is at its most irrelevant place in history.
As a cable-cutter, I think the only thing I REALLY care about having access to NBC, ABC or CBS for is live news and live sports. It makes me sad since I grew up in the era of the Big 3, when the entire country watched the same shows at the same time.
07-13-21, 04:42 PM
#30
DVD Talk Legend
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Unless the Emmys have changed the rules, the system always was that a performer had to approve being submitted for nomination and the category. So maybe Cheadle can say that everything was done on his behalf by his team, but he's really supposed to be aware of what's going on.
07-13-21, 05:03 PM
#31
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
According to Gold Derby, there were 60 submissions for Guest Actor in a Drama Series. So somebody submitted Cheadle. And he wasn't competing against hundreds of other actors.
What I find weird is that the show is considered a Drama Series. It seems like it's just as limited a series as WandaVision, but maybe Disney has plans for a continuing series?
What I find weird is that the show is considered a Drama Series. It seems like it's just as limited a series as WandaVision, but maybe Disney has plans for a continuing series?
07-13-21, 05:19 PM
#32
DVD Talk Hero
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Mythic Quest got two Emmy noms, and one was for best narrarator (Anthony Hopkins) 
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07-13-21, 08:40 PM
#33
DVD Talk Hero
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
I'd love to see The Boys win for best drama.
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07-13-21, 10:58 PM
#34
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
No love for Tiger King?
Seriously, though, The Great was robbed.
Seriously, though, The Great was robbed.
07-13-21, 11:02 PM
#35
DVD Talk Hero
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Schitts Creek cleaned up.
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07-14-21, 12:28 AM
#36
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
The drama category is a lot less interesting to me with no Succession and no Better Call Saul in the running.this year.
07-14-21, 09:26 AM
#37
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Wow, the death of the networks has really messed up my sense of TV Time. Ah, the old days of a Fall season and a Summer season.
07-14-21, 09:39 AM
#38
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
I thing Fargo Season 4 got shut out as well, which is a shame because there was some good work by supporting characters there, especially Glynn Turman.
07-14-21, 10:55 AM
#39
DVD Talk Legend
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
07-14-21, 11:00 AM
#40
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Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Johnathan Groff was funny in his five minutes of Hamilton, and did get a Tony Nomination for that performance, but it's not really in the same league and he got the nomination that Turman didn't.
07-14-21, 12:31 PM
#41
DVD Talk Hero
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Cheadle stars on an underrated comedy on Showtime right now, couldn't they have just given him a nom for that?
07-14-21, 12:45 PM
#42
DVD Talk Legend
07-14-21, 01:00 PM
#43
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Don't feel bad for Cheadle -- He's been nominated twice for Black Monday - in 2019 and 2020, before that he was nominated 4 times for House of Lies. He literally couldn't have been nominated for that yesterday because Black Monday season 3 didn't air during the eligibility period (technically the first two episodes did, but per the rules since a majority of the episodes aired after June 1, it will be eligible for Emmy consideration in 2022 instead).
07-15-21, 02:54 AM
#44
DVD Talk Legend
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
The big four 3 letter networks should be embarrassed that they were left out of most of the nominations or maybe they only have room for shows like the Bachelorette and Love Island.
I bet 10 years ago most of the top notch streaming shows would be airing on channels like AMC, FX, and TNT.
I bet 10 years ago most of the top notch streaming shows would be airing on channels like AMC, FX, and TNT.
07-15-21, 02:12 PM
#45
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
The Television Critics Awards list of nominees seem way better than the Emmys'
07-15-21, 02:20 PM
#46
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
07-15-21, 03:14 PM
#47
DVD Talk Legend
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
It made sense that for decades the networks would trade off broadcasting an awards show that preached to the public about the quality and value of the networks' own shows. Now it is like going to IHOP and finding it plastered with advertising for better restaurants.
07-15-21, 10:28 PM
#48
DVD Talk Legend
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
I wonder if the networks loosened their standards or did not bow to sponsors if they would make their shows more racy or risque like the premium channels and streaming and the shows would be better,
07-15-21, 11:29 PM
#49
DVD Talk Hero
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
Of course, I also think networks don’t feel they need to change anything due to the advantage they have with ratings being free to viewers.
07-15-21, 11:35 PM
#50
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: 2021 Emmy nominees -- Show: 9/19/21 -- Host: Cedric the Entertainer
I could see another ER or LA Law type show catch lightning in a bottle and be an Emmy contender. But they're not going to make a Breaking Bad or Sopranos or Succession, let alone a Game of Thrones. That's not in their business model, too expensive and risky. And the public would probably assume it's not as good as a cable show anyways. The last great inventive, important network TV Drama was LOST, and look how it's disparaged now.
Where they can still compete is in comedy. I would put The Good Place up against any recent HBO, Amazon or Netflix comedy. They can still turn out quality. And I think 22 minutes actually works better for Comedy run times than 30.
Where they can still compete is in comedy. I would put The Good Place up against any recent HBO, Amazon or Netflix comedy. They can still turn out quality. And I think 22 minutes actually works better for Comedy run times than 30.