Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
I kept wondering why he kept the Wakandan accent? I would have thought over time it might change and become more subtle/less pronounced since he wasn't around any Wakandans while with the Ravagers.
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
Overall this episode was pure fan service. NTTAWWT. I wonder what the reaction to this would have been if Boseman was alive and healthy and still playing T'Challa? It was a very nice tribute to the character, but sadly his death gives the whole story a bittersweet feel.
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
I thought it was good. Definitely better than Captain Carter IMO. It was a nice little tribute to Boseman and yeah a bittersweet end to his work on the MCU. And No I didn't think he sounded off at all. Even if he was having difficulty reading his lines, they could always fix it in audio post production.
It was weird though seeing Thanos play a hero instead of a villain.
It was weird though seeing Thanos play a hero instead of a villain.
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My (British-born) Grandmother came to America when she was 18. Her accent NEVER left after living in this country for over 50 years. It can happen!
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
The Collector was completely out of character in this.
Overall this episode was pure fan service. NTTAWWT. I wonder what the reaction to this would have been if Boseman was alive and healthy and still playing T'Challa? It was a very nice tribute to the character, but sadly his death gives the whole story a bittersweet feel.
Overall this episode was pure fan service. NTTAWWT. I wonder what the reaction to this would have been if Boseman was alive and healthy and still playing T'Challa? It was a very nice tribute to the character, but sadly his death gives the whole story a bittersweet feel.
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
By the way, the case that the Collector had for the Avengers weapons is eerily similar to the one Red Skull had on the Old Man Logan storyline in the comic books
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
Disney+’s ‘What if T’Challa became a star-lord?’ is a repudiation of mediocre white men
Great opinion piece.
The episode starring Chadwick Boseman’s final performance bodies the entire concept of the white guy who gets to have it all, by showing what real heroism through Black guy magic, can actually look like.
Glad I'm not the only one that has ever thought Star Lord, portrayed by Chris Pratt, has always been lame.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-t-...214002474.html
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18 is a world of difference than a 10 year old. At 10 you're still developing and learning speech patterns. I had a pretty thick pidgin English accent when I moved to California at 12. I dropped it for the most part during high school, but I turn it on and off now depending on the people I'm with, definitely when I step off the plane in Hawaii or I'm around others from Hawaii.
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Disney+’s ‘What if T’Challa became a star-lord?’ is a repudiation of mediocre white men
Great opinion piece.
Glad I'm not the only one that has ever thought Star Lord, portrayed by Chris Pratt, has always been lame.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-t-...214002474.html
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
Just randomly watched the Captain Carter, that was damn near a cinematic feature. How did they pack so much awesome into 30 minutes?
Also I remember reading the What If comics back in the 80s, but not this one. Is it new to this series?
Also I remember reading the What If comics back in the 80s, but not this one. Is it new to this series?
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
The analogy he uses makes sense, though. It's like that bit in the news where the rich white teen was aquitted(?) or given a lenient sentence, because the Judge said that the conviction/harsh sentence could ruin his life and the kid has potential. When we all know that if it were a minority, they would have thrown the book at his ass. In the opinion piece that I linked, he makes the point that Star Lord is a white guy whose stupidity caused the shit that happened in the Marvel movies. He gets a "pass" in the MCU's timeline. It's a contrast/compare piece that obviously went over your head.
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He's like that one kid you used to know in junior high/high school who was kind of funny and charming, but over time you realized he was just an asshole. And I'm not sure if I'm talking about Starlord or Chris Pratt himself, since it seems like he plays the same character in everything I've seen him in.
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
Why does everything have to be about something. Why can’t it just be a cool episode of a cartoon based on a comic book series?
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This is set in the movie universe, not the comics.
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I will say that Chris Pratt's Star Lord took tons of shit as a character. I remember him being super criticized for fucking up the entire plan at the end of Infinity War because he's such an impetuous shithead.
The one thing I'll say is that people like Star Lord because he's an asshole who's usually trying to be a better person, and it doesn't seem easy for him. Personally, that's more identifiable to me than how T'Challa is portrayed who is basically "perfect." He never does anything wrong, he always makes the right decision. That's something to aspire to, but it feels unattainable, while someone like Peter Quill is still on a journey to be a better person, and all the failures that entails.
Regarding this episode specifically, I'm really starting to get annoyed at the power problems with Marvel. How the fuck was T'Challa tanking hits from super powered beings when he has no super powers at all in this version? I know, it's a dumb nitpick, and I enjoyed the episode overall, but man his head would've been caved in from one Collector punch.
The one thing I'll say is that people like Star Lord because he's an asshole who's usually trying to be a better person, and it doesn't seem easy for him. Personally, that's more identifiable to me than how T'Challa is portrayed who is basically "perfect." He never does anything wrong, he always makes the right decision. That's something to aspire to, but it feels unattainable, while someone like Peter Quill is still on a journey to be a better person, and all the failures that entails.
Regarding this episode specifically, I'm really starting to get annoyed at the power problems with Marvel. How the fuck was T'Challa tanking hits from super powered beings when he has no super powers at all in this version? I know, it's a dumb nitpick, and I enjoyed the episode overall, but man his head would've been caved in from one Collector punch.
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
Disney+’s ‘What if T’Challa became a star-lord?’ is a repudiation of mediocre white men
Great opinion piece.
Glad I'm not the only one that has ever thought Star Lord, portrayed by Chris Pratt, has always been lame.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-t-...214002474.html
I also don't believe that anyone celebrates Star Lord (or Chris Pratt) as the writer indicates as much as they are entertained by him. GoG are anti heroes, they aren't supposed to be T'Challa or Cap. That is why this episode was interesting because it replaces an anti hero with a hero and shows you what the result might have been.
Something that I find interesting in the dissection of the social commentary on the MCU (which there is alot of) is the fact that Killmonger wasn't wrong, and Wakanda (and by extension T'Challa) was complicit in the enslavement of people around the world through their inaction. It is also one of the reasons that, with Bozeman's unfortunate passing, I think Disney is probably kicking themselves for killing off the Killmonger character so quickly.
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
While I don't disagree with his assessment of the Star Lord character 100%, his overarching argument is a bit flawed. In this particular case, yes they are taking a person who cares only about himself and replacing him with a character that is trying to better those around him, showing what that person could do with the same resources and using them for good. Now instead of T'Challa replacing Star Lord, have Steve Rodgers replace Star Lord. My guess is you would get the same results.
I also don't believe that anyone celebrates Star Lord (or Chris Pratt) as the writer indicates as much as they are entertained by him. GoG are anti heroes, they aren't supposed to be T'Challa or Cap. That is why this episode was interesting because it replaces an anti hero with a hero and shows you what the result might have been.
Something that I find interesting in the dissection of the social commentary on the MCU (which there is alot of) is the fact that Killmonger wasn't wrong, and Wakanda (and by extension T'Challa) was complicit in the enslavement of people around the world through their inaction. It is also one of the reasons that, with Bozeman's unfortunate passing, I think Disney is probably kicking themselves for killing off the Killmonger character so quickly.
I also don't believe that anyone celebrates Star Lord (or Chris Pratt) as the writer indicates as much as they are entertained by him. GoG are anti heroes, they aren't supposed to be T'Challa or Cap. That is why this episode was interesting because it replaces an anti hero with a hero and shows you what the result might have been.
Something that I find interesting in the dissection of the social commentary on the MCU (which there is alot of) is the fact that Killmonger wasn't wrong, and Wakanda (and by extension T'Challa) was complicit in the enslavement of people around the world through their inaction. It is also one of the reasons that, with Bozeman's unfortunate passing, I think Disney is probably kicking themselves for killing off the Killmonger character so quickly.
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All art is political
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#149
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
Disney+’s ‘What if T’Challa became a star-lord?’ is a repudiation of mediocre white men
Great opinion piece.
Glad I'm not the only one that has ever thought Star Lord, portrayed by Chris Pratt, has always been lame.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-t-...214002474.html
#150
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Re: Marvel Studios What If...? (Disney +) -- Premieres 8/11/21
^Exactly. That's literally the joke within the movies.
Do we need an opinion piece telling us Thor is vain?
Do we need an opinion piece telling us Thor is vain?