Mare of Easttown (HBO) - limited series - S: Kate Winslet - premieres 4/18/21
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Re: Mare of Easttown (HBO) - limited series - S: Kate Winslet - premieres 4/18/21
I'm feeling that same vibe Giantrobo. I do have a little different take on it though ...
The way she handled chasing down the suspected burglar earlier was, IMO, very admirable. She knew him, she took care of him.
Planting the drugs was not done in her capacity as a cop to "take down" a suspect. In fact, it feels like almost all of her police work has been well handled despite the shitty circumstances (possible exception was continuing to grill the girl who was "asking" for a lawyer). Planting the drugs was done in a purely self-centered capacity to keep her grandson. That doesn't make it any better or justifiable; it is still a very piss-poor decision and an abuse of her power, but the motivation is different.
I have really come to struggle with the "anti-hero" that we have come to celebrate in our media over the last several decades. Flawed heroes and anti-heroes are very different things. We have moved too far past flawed into the flat-out "root for the bad guy" realm. That said, I think Mare still falls into "flawed hero" more than "anti-hero" due to the motivation I mentioned above.
The way she handled chasing down the suspected burglar earlier was, IMO, very admirable. She knew him, she took care of him.
Planting the drugs was not done in her capacity as a cop to "take down" a suspect. In fact, it feels like almost all of her police work has been well handled despite the shitty circumstances (possible exception was continuing to grill the girl who was "asking" for a lawyer). Planting the drugs was done in a purely self-centered capacity to keep her grandson. That doesn't make it any better or justifiable; it is still a very piss-poor decision and an abuse of her power, but the motivation is different.
I have really come to struggle with the "anti-hero" that we have come to celebrate in our media over the last several decades. Flawed heroes and anti-heroes are very different things. We have moved too far past flawed into the flat-out "root for the bad guy" realm. That said, I think Mare still falls into "flawed hero" more than "anti-hero" due to the motivation I mentioned above.
I've been thinking about your take; and even if the writers made her good at her Detective work, the reality is once a cop is found capable of planting evidence. To me, ALL the cases they worked become suspect; and should perhaps get a review.
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Re: Mare of Easttown (HBO) - limited series - S: Kate Winslet - premieres 4/18/21
After the last episode, my money's on Tony Delrasso as the killer. He's the father who threw the milk jug through the window at Mare. Why? Because other than the deacon, he's the only person with the same build/hairstyle as the guy we saw in the van with the girl.
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Well? We're waiting!
https://www.vulture.com/article/mare...-theories.html
anyone want to bet Mare's grandson Drew at 100.000/1 lol
I'm actually bummed that my prediction (since ep 1) is the current "favorite" in this article. Thought i was being clever
https://www.vulture.com/article/mare...-theories.html
anyone want to bet Mare's grandson Drew at 100.000/1 lol
I'm actually bummed that my prediction (since ep 1) is the current "favorite" in this article. Thought i was being clever
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Re: Mare of Easttown (HBO) - limited series - S: Kate Winslet - premieres 4/18/21
That shot of Peters going back for the forgotten coffee was too big of a tell. I knew he’d be a goner soon.
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Well that was an "OMG!" moment at the end of this week's show. Reminded me of that scene in "House of Cards" where the girl was pushed in front of the train. No one was expecting that and I literally jumped out of my seat.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/a...episode-5.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/a...episode-5.html
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The scene of the drive home after Mare finds out about here mom's affair was great
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Or when she called her mom a homewrecker under her breath as she was leaving for her date. And they weren't even talking about that affair. They were discussing the outfit she was wearing and the mom was trying to get her to wear the red dress. That was comedy gold.
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Re: Mare of Easttown (HBO) - limited series - S: Kate Winslet - premieres 4/18/21
I had been thinking that Mare reminds me of "Clarice Starling" but with a little more maturity and confidence. That, whole scene with Zabel at the end even gave me SotL vibes.
Oh and can we stop to appreciate how good Kate looked on her date with Zabel?
Oh and can we stop to appreciate how good Kate looked on her date with Zabel?
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I was just telling my friend that that scene had the intensity of "SotL" and "Seven" combined.
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Was thinking the same thing. The final bit was pretty intense. I know it's supposed to be a one season type of thing but I would definitely watch another.
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Still looks like the abductions aren't related to Erin's death. But that could be a trick to fool people as well.
They're just throwing a few very guilty-looking suspects each episode and will rule them out within the same episode or an episode or two later. They're basically throwing everything at the wall to try and fool the viewer. And of course everyone in this town has some dark secret.
Predictable about Zabel. Pretty much telegraphed that earlier on in the episode (ie. not taking risks hasn't gotten him anywhere).
Lots of cliched dumbness as well. 2 big blows to the head of the kidnapper, and Mare doesn't even grab his gun or even hit him a few more times first. And of course he's able to get up from that without any concussion issues.
Loved Erin's "ear surgery" envelope of money. It's a good thing Erin labelled it so she doesn't confuse it with her other envelopes of cash.
Didn't know Phyllis Somerville (the actress who played Betty that died at the beginning of the show in the car crash/electrical pole) actually died in July 2020 and this was her last role. I remember her most from her role in The Big C. I guess this series was filmed around 10 months ago at least.
They're just throwing a few very guilty-looking suspects each episode and will rule them out within the same episode or an episode or two later. They're basically throwing everything at the wall to try and fool the viewer. And of course everyone in this town has some dark secret.
Predictable about Zabel. Pretty much telegraphed that earlier on in the episode (ie. not taking risks hasn't gotten him anywhere).
Lots of cliched dumbness as well. 2 big blows to the head of the kidnapper, and Mare doesn't even grab his gun or even hit him a few more times first. And of course he's able to get up from that without any concussion issues.
Loved Erin's "ear surgery" envelope of money. It's a good thing Erin labelled it so she doesn't confuse it with her other envelopes of cash.
Didn't know Phyllis Somerville (the actress who played Betty that died at the beginning of the show in the car crash/electrical pole) actually died in July 2020 and this was her last role. I remember her most from her role in The Big C. I guess this series was filmed around 10 months ago at least.
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Loved Erin's "ear surgery" envelope of money. It's a good thing Erin labelled it so she doesn't confuse it with her other envelopes of cash.
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And I did NOT see that death coming. That came out of the blue for me, and it was sudden, shocking and effective.
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Predictable about Zabel. Pretty much telegraphed that earlier on in the episode (ie. not taking risks hasn't gotten him anywhere).
Lots of cliched dumbness as well. 2 big blows to the head of the kidnapper, and Mare doesn't even grab his gun or even hit him a few more times first. And of course he's able to get up from that without any concussion issues.
Lots of cliched dumbness as well. 2 big blows to the head of the kidnapper, and Mare doesn't even grab his gun or even hit him a few more times first. And of course he's able to get up from that without any concussion issues.
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Re: Mare of Easttown (HBO) - limited series - S: Kate Winslet - premieres 4/18/21
Thank you Bandoman! Good observation.
Is anybody else getting the sense that this is not going to be a "fair mystery" ... meaning, the killer is going to be some random person, not anybody we have met.
I'm pretty sure the killer and the kidnapper are going to be different people though. Maybe the kidnapper is a rando and the killer is somebody we have met. (I'm betting on the uncle with the beard.)
Is anybody else getting the sense that this is not going to be a "fair mystery" ... meaning, the killer is going to be some random person, not anybody we have met.
I'm pretty sure the killer and the kidnapper are going to be different people though. Maybe the kidnapper is a rando and the killer is somebody we have met. (I'm betting on the uncle with the beard.)
OK, Bandoman explained why they actually paid close attention to detail with the interrogation scene ... but WTF with the cop approaching the car with powerlines on it?! NO NO NO NO NEVER AND NO. That was just my first issue with this episode ... more later ...
Since I am quoting ... I was 2 for 2 on what we know so far ... (3 for 3 if you count the priest reveal, but I see I didn't post that here; only discussed it with my wife.)
Still looks like the abductions aren't related to Erin's death. But that could be a trick to fool people as well.
They're just throwing a few very guilty-looking suspects each episode and will rule them out within the same episode or an episode or two later. They're basically throwing everything at the wall to try and fool the viewer. And of course everyone in this town has some dark secret.
Predictable about Zabel. Pretty much telegraphed that earlier on in the episode (ie. not taking risks hasn't gotten him anywhere).
Lots of cliched dumbness as well. 2 big blows to the head of the kidnapper, and Mare doesn't even grab his gun or even hit him a few more times first. And of course he's able to get up from that without any concussion issues.
Loved Erin's "ear surgery" envelope of money. It's a good thing Erin labelled it so she doesn't confuse it with her other envelopes of cash.
They're just throwing a few very guilty-looking suspects each episode and will rule them out within the same episode or an episode or two later. They're basically throwing everything at the wall to try and fool the viewer. And of course everyone in this town has some dark secret.
Predictable about Zabel. Pretty much telegraphed that earlier on in the episode (ie. not taking risks hasn't gotten him anywhere).
Lots of cliched dumbness as well. 2 big blows to the head of the kidnapper, and Mare doesn't even grab his gun or even hit him a few more times first. And of course he's able to get up from that without any concussion issues.
Loved Erin's "ear surgery" envelope of money. It's a good thing Erin labelled it so she doesn't confuse it with her other envelopes of cash.
Sorry, but this episode was well done bad TV. From the opening to the telegraphed foreshadowing to the "already seen it in Silence of the Lambs" ending. It was lazy in a way that the rest of the show has not been.
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I thought it was great. I can roll with tropes if the product is entertaining and still surprising in parts. I am still a huge fan of this series.
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What's in that picture?
It's gonna be a long week until next Sunday night.
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I bet it is not the brother we suspect. The receipt was intentionally vague.
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Good point on the receipt.
Question : Whose Gun and tackle box was that? I think it was John’s.
Special for using my favorite song of 2020 - “I Know The End” by Phoebe Bridgers in Siobhan’s break-down scene.
Question : Whose Gun and tackle box was that? I think it was John’s.
Special for using my favorite song of 2020 - “I Know The End” by Phoebe Bridgers in Siobhan’s break-down scene.
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It just occurred to me that either Kete Winslet or Anya Taylor Joy is NOT going to win an Emmy for their work. 😢
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