Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
02-24-21, 09:10 AM
#26
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
That's a five part tweet that doesn't actually state anything. If he has exculpatory evidence in the court transcripts he should say what it is rather than hint around something unsaid. Whatever he has or thinks he has, the filmmakers aren't going to respond other than to say that they stand by their work. So why is Weide playing coy? We shall see...
02-24-21, 09:18 AM
#27
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
HBO says that six Woody Allen films available for streaming on HBO Max will remain on the service after some online called out the streamer for hosting those films alongside the new docuseries “Allen v. Farrow.”
“These titles will remain available in the library to allow viewers to make their own informed decisions about screening the work,” HBO said in a statement to TheWrap.
“These titles will remain available in the library to allow viewers to make their own informed decisions about screening the work,” HBO said in a statement to TheWrap.
02-24-21, 10:03 AM
#28
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
The following users liked this post:
Hubbub (03-19-21)
02-24-21, 10:06 AM
#29
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
02-24-21, 10:22 AM
#30
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
02-24-21, 10:23 AM
#31
DVD Talk Limited Edition
02-24-21, 10:28 AM
#32
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
Soon-Yi is adamant that Allen was not a stand-in father to her: “I already had a father,” she points out. “He was André Previn, and Mia never married Woody, nor did they ever live together. He was my mother’s boyfriend, plain and simple. He was like a separate entity. I thought Mia had pulled the wool over his eyes by getting him to believe that she was such a great mother. I felt he was not very observant, not worth getting to know. This is why it’s the biggest shock to me that we ended up together.”
02-24-21, 10:33 AM
#33
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
I am not saying that it DIDN'T happen, I am waiting to see what is alledged here. But the assumption you made is why I can't totally believe Mia. Of course she was furious and hell bent on ruining Woody's career and life after that.
I can't tell you how many times I have seen a recently divorced couple accusing either that father or the wife's boyfriend of sexually molesting the daughter in joint custody. It's a frequent occurrence.
02-24-21, 11:05 AM
#34
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
I'm not alleging anything. There was a question of why Woody wasn't getting the benefit of the doubt and I explained that once you start dating the daughter of your girlfriend for ten years as soon as she is legal you should expect that people are going to consider you to be a gross human being and suspect you of other things.
And to answer Dex: Soon Yi saying he wasn't a father figure and nothing happened until she was a adult is meaningless. She was in love with him of course she is not going to say things happened that would get him in trouble.
I wasn't there so I'm not stating anything as fact but if you guys aren't creeped the fuck out by an old guy dating a woman for 10 years and then moving on to her daughter who he knew since she was a child I don't what to say to you.
And to answer Dex: Soon Yi saying he wasn't a father figure and nothing happened until she was a adult is meaningless. She was in love with him of course she is not going to say things happened that would get him in trouble.
I wasn't there so I'm not stating anything as fact but if you guys aren't creeped the fuck out by an old guy dating a woman for 10 years and then moving on to her daughter who he knew since she was a child I don't what to say to you.
The following 2 users liked this post by The Questyen:
Boondock Saint (02-24-21),
Hubbub (03-19-21)
02-24-21, 11:13 AM
#35
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
And to answer Dex: Soon Yi saying he wasn't a father figure and nothing happened until she was a adult is meaningless. She was in love with him of course she is not going to say things happened that would get him in trouble.
I wasn't there so I'm not stating anything as fact but if you guys aren't creeped the fuck out by an old guy dating a woman for 10 years and then moving on to her daughter who he knew since she was a child I don't what to say to you.
Even people who doubt Dylan’s claims of assault, often cling to Woody’s relationship with Soon-Yi as justification for their skepticism about him. The public attacks on Soon-Yi by complete strangers still stagger me, as does the general misinformation that so many people consider fact. She is not Woody’s daughter (adopted, step, or otherwise), nor is she developmentally challenged. (She got a master’s degree in special education from Columbia University!) And the claim that they started dating while she was underage is totally false.
In truth, Woody and Soon-Yi rarely even spoke during her childhood. It was my mother who first suggested, when Soon-Yi was 20, that Woody reach out and spend time with her. He agreed and started taking her to Knicks games. That’s how their romance started. Yes, it was unorthodox, uncomfortable, disruptive to our family and it hurt my mother terribly. But the relationship itself was not nearly as devastating to our family as my mother’s insistence on making this betrayal the center of all our lives from then on.
In truth, Woody and Soon-Yi rarely even spoke during her childhood. It was my mother who first suggested, when Soon-Yi was 20, that Woody reach out and spend time with her. He agreed and started taking her to Knicks games. That’s how their romance started. Yes, it was unorthodox, uncomfortable, disruptive to our family and it hurt my mother terribly. But the relationship itself was not nearly as devastating to our family as my mother’s insistence on making this betrayal the center of all our lives from then on.
02-24-21, 12:15 PM
#36
DVD Talk Limited Edition
02-24-21, 03:26 PM
#37
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
Well if your point has morphed in the course of a few posts from "He had an affair and married his teenage step-daughter, so it's easy to believe that he also molested his six-year old daughter" all the way to "Yeah but he's still a creep and an awful boyfriend" -- then yeah sure, I guess we're on the same page now. 
02-24-21, 04:08 PM
#38
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
Well if your point has morphed in the course of a few posts from "He had an affair and married his teenage step-daughter, so it's easy to believe that he also molested his six-year old daughter" all the way to "Yeah but he's still a creep and an awful boyfriend" -- then yeah sure, I guess we're on the same page now.
02-25-21, 04:15 PM
#39
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
I don't know what to believe but my assessement of gim being a weirdo is not enough to give me a reason to believe he is a pedophile. Not being accused by anyone else in such a long time, gives me more reason to believe he isn't. I'm not an expert on the matter, but my wife worked as a proscutor and all cases with child abuse included repeat offenders or misunderstandings.
02-25-21, 05:18 PM
#40
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
I haven't seen the documentary, but a friend's rave review of it on her blog compelled me to research the subject and I found this impassioned defense of Allen, published two years ago by a devoted fan of his, that brings up something that I'd never really encountered in detail before: a discussion of his current family situation with Soon-yi and their two adopted daughters. What I found eerie was how closely the older daughter resembles Soon-yi and how the younger one has some resemblance to Dylan as seen in pictures included in the piece. Coincidence or not? I'm not saying this means anything and I'm not sure how all this bears on the original accusation other than that on the surface, Woody and Soon-yi seem to have had a happy marriage for 20-odd years and loving daughters, with the older one defending him publicly. If there's any reason to dispute this I haven't seen it. Despite the accusations and the Connecticut custody case, the New York court allowed the couple to adopt two daughters. I'm guessing the documentary doesn't explore this although it seems to me it was worth addressing. I'm not defending Woody or making a case either way, just adding something to the discussion.
https://levine2001.medium.com/the-wo...s-1e41d7c0511a
https://levine2001.medium.com/the-wo...s-1e41d7c0511a
02-25-21, 08:01 PM
#41
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
He also acknowledges his relationship with soon yi as the betrayal it was, but he also points out that they love each other and have been together for 30 years so what are you going to do.
02-26-21, 02:41 PM
#42
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In the straps of boots
Posts: 28,004
Received 1,183 Likes
on
835 Posts
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
I haven't watched the show, but plan to.
but after all these years, this is pretty much where I'm at on the Woody Allen discourse, and I have zero love for his films (I don't hate them. I just don't care about his movies that much at all)
but after all these years, this is pretty much where I'm at on the Woody Allen discourse, and I have zero love for his films (I don't hate them. I just don't care about his movies that much at all)
The following users liked this post:
spainlinx0 (03-02-21)
02-27-21, 08:59 AM
#43
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
03-01-21, 12:13 PM
#44
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
As promised, Weide delivers his rebuttal to the toy train story told by Dylan starting in 2014. It pretty much discredits that part of her testimony.
BTW : I watched part 2 last night. It looks really bad for Woody. Even the excerpts from his own autobiography just make him look very bad and callous.
BTW : I watched part 2 last night. It looks really bad for Woody. Even the excerpts from his own autobiography just make him look very bad and callous.
03-01-21, 01:28 PM
#45
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
I watched part 2 last night. It looks really bad for Woody. Even the excerpts from his own autobiography just make him look very bad and callous.
03-01-21, 03:41 PM
#47
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Thread Starter
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
03-07-21, 11:33 PM
#48
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
Just saw episode 3...holy shit Woody Allen is such a shitbag, reminds me of another (Orange) shitbag who also likes to distort truth...
03-08-21, 01:27 AM
#49
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Allen v. Farrow (HBO Max) - 4-Part Docuseries, Premiers 2/21/21
Haven't/ won't/ can't watch the series.
I just thought it was interesting that I ran across this doc the other day.
I think it was produced for the Criterion release of Rosemary's Baby. I don't have my copy handy to check.
What I found interesting is- within the first five minutes you can watch Mia Farrow wax rhapsodically about a man who drugged and then anally raped a 13 year old- a narrative of which there is absolutely no dispute.
But the film made her theatrical career so...
I just thought it was interesting that I ran across this doc the other day.
I think it was produced for the Criterion release of Rosemary's Baby. I don't have my copy handy to check.
What I found interesting is- within the first five minutes you can watch Mia Farrow wax rhapsodically about a man who drugged and then anally raped a 13 year old- a narrative of which there is absolutely no dispute.
But the film made her theatrical career so...
