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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by kefrank View Post
My personal opinion is, if you're doing a fairly tight shot on a human face in full light, "really good CGI" isn't good enough because the uncanny valley will take me out of it every time. "Really good" is plenty fine for non-human creatures and miscellaneous effects, but for human faces it just isn't good enough yet.
I think there’s even another layer to it. They’re using a real person so not only are our brains trying to work though the “uncanny valley” stuff, we’re also seeing an actor we know does not look like that anymore. Our brains are also trying to figure out how the actor is appearing younger.

I think that’s why we’re getting different opinions on the quality of the CGI. I bet if we were to ask people who had no idea who Mark Hamill is and didn’t know what he looked like today, they’d probably be perfectly fine with Luke’s appearance. Some uncanny valley stuff might still loom, where it looks off and they can’t quite put their finger on it but I bet they’d still not think much about the CGI.


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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Looks like Mandalorian season 3 is postponed until 2022. Guess the Boba Fett show will take it's place next year.

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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Yeah, Favreau mentioned that during an interview. Boba isn't Mando S3. Mando will air in 2022 after the Boba season is over.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

That’s what Favreau said yesterday. Boba in December, Mandalorian soon after.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ View Post
I think there’s even another layer to it. They’re using a real person so not only are our brains trying to work though the “uncanny valley” stuff, we’re also seeing an actor we know does not look like that anymore. Our brains are also trying to figure out how the actor is appearing younger.

I think that’s why we’re getting different opinions on the quality of the CGI. I bet if we were to ask people who had no idea who Mark Hamill is and didn’t know what he looked like today, they’d probably be perfectly fine with Luke’s appearance. Some uncanny valley stuff might still loom, where it looks off and they can’t quite put their finger on it but I bet they’d still not think much about the CGI.
There's people who watch Rogue One that are new to the franchise and don't realize Tarkin is CGI because they don't know Peter Cushing as a name but they recognize Leia as CGI since Carrie is a more well-known name.
So, there's definitely a mental aspect to it, of what the viewer is expecting.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

I thought the episode was good until the Darktroopers came back. Then it turned into an Asylum-level-CGI fest, capped off with fan film-y choreography while trying to hide Luke's face, which looked horrendous and killed 90% of the emotion of that scene. Seriously, it's OK to recast.

The goodbye between Baby Yoda and Mando was very sweet, though.

I really liked the previous, Bill Burr episode, so this was a letdown and a sort of culmination of the Iron Man 2-ness of the entire season.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Damn, what a great ending to a fantastic season. Seeing Luke and then Artoo show up like that made me tear up. And then Mando removing his helmet so Grogu could see and touch his face. Shit, that really got me.

I don't know what else I can add that hasn't already been said, but this show re-captures that SW magic for me in ways that the prequels and sequels never did, none of them. I always thought that maybe it was me and I was getting too old for that magic, but now I realize that it wasn't me at all. If done correctly, that magic is still there, and holy shit did this show do it correctly in ways those newer films didn't, they were pretty to look at but were ultimately empty had no heart. This show has heart up the wazoo.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by Geddlo View Post
Loved that Luke showed up with his laser sword and faced down the army of droids to save the day.

I do like that no one, besides the audience and maybe Cara Dune, have any idea who he actually is. Bo Katan just sees a Jedi...
You'd think that Cara Dune would be like, "Oh that's General Skywalker, hero of the Rebellion, who avenged my planet"

The Dark Saber ... adamantium, vibranium, unobtainmium ... I like the Mandalorian lore around the Darksaber, but it is just lazy kids-in-the-sandbox escalation. Lightsabers can cut through anything! Nuh-uh, they can’t cut through my Darksaber! Oh yeah, well I have Darksaber-proof armor, so your Darksaber can’t cut through my beskar! Dummy, how come your beskar can be melted with a blowtorch and made into armor then?!


Abob Teff The Darksaber has reeked of adolescent fan fiction to me since I found out what it was last year. "It's schuper schweet guys, it's a lightsaber katana, made by someone like Boba Fett, and it's black. Oh and whoever has it gets to rule the planet!"
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by windom View Post
How come Luke didn't tell Yoda in The Last Jedi that he found another of his species?
“Master Yoda, I found another of your kind!”
“Met Yaddle, did you, young Skywalker? Ghosted her, I did. Yes, very clingy.”
”But master, she had a youngling. Search your feelings; you know it to be true.”
”Back to my forever sleep I must go. Mind your own dank ferrick business you must!”

Is there anything that says TLJ was Luke’s first time talking to Yoda since ROTJ? I assumed they’d have likely been in contact many times up until Luke cut himself off from the Force. Besides, Grogu had been in the Jedi Temple around when Anakin became Vader so they undoubtedly knew each other.

Does current canon really even support the idea that Yoda’s race is in an endangered position? I can’t recall anything, and thinking back it feels like a Legends/EU concept that people have unconsciously carried over.
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Wouldn't Gidion have known that the saber would do nothing to Mando's armor? Mando should have just stood there and laughed while he was being attacked.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by Noonan View Post
Wouldn't Gidion have known that the saber would do nothing to Mando's armor? Mando should have just stood there and laughed while he was being attacked.
accept for, uh, all those exposed joint areas covered in cloth.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by Tom Banjo View Post
“Master Yoda, I found another of your kind!”
“Met Yaddle, did you, young Skywalker? Ghosted her, I did. Yes, very clingy.”
”But master, she had a youngling. Search your feelings; you know it to be true.”
”Back to my forever sleep I must go. Mind your own dank ferrick business you must!”

Is there anything that says TLJ was Luke’s first time talking to Yoda since ROTJ? I assumed they’d have likely been in contact many times up until Luke cut himself off from the Force. Besides, Grogu had been in the Jedi Temple around when Anakin became Vader so they undoubtedly knew each other.

Does current canon really even support the idea that Yoda’s race is in an endangered position? I can’t recall anything, and thinking back it feels like a Legends/EU concept that people have unconsciously carried over.
We will find out eventually. Maybe Luke lost track of Grogu or thought he was dead (obviously he was thought to be dead before). If both Luke and ghost Yoda think Grogu is gone it would make sense that they didn't chat about him in the new trilogy movies.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

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Damn, what a great ending to a fantastic season. Seeing Luke and then Artoo show up like that made me tear up. And then Mando removing his helmet so Grogu could see and touch his face. Shit, that really got me.

I don't know what else I can add that hasn't already been said, but this show re-captures that SW magic for me in ways that the prequels and sequels never did, none of them. I always thought that maybe it was me and I was getting too old for that magic, but now I realize that it wasn't me at all. If done correctly, that magic is still there, and holy shit did this show do it correctly in ways those newer films didn't, they were pretty to look at but were ultimately empty had no heart. This show has heart up the wazoo.
At the end of the day you care about the characters. Old ones like Boba Fett and new ones like Mando, Cara Dune, Ahsoka Tano and others. You are invested in their stories just like you were in the original trilogy. I didn't care that much about the characters in Ep 1-3 and I cared even less about the characters in Ep 7-9.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Originally Posted by dex14 View Post
That’s what Favreau said yesterday. Boba in December, Mandalorian soon after.
I'm OK with this. Mando S2 didn't end on a cliffhanger, so the suspense isn't killing anyone. There's tons of cool stuff to keep us distracted in 2021. Take the time to do it right.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

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Does current canon really even support the idea that Yoda’s race is in an endangered position? I can’t recall anything, and thinking back it feels like a Legends/EU concept that people have unconsciously carried over.
Lucas has, in the past, been very secretive about Yoda's species. In the old EU, Yoda's species was one thing that was off-limits. Their species was never given a name or home world, nor were any others introduced.

Aside from dropping Yaddle into the background of the Prequels, we haven't seen another or Yoda's species until now.

It was often speculated that Yoda's species were the Whills (from "The Journal of the Whills.")
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

In the documentary "From Puppets to Pixels," available on the DVD bonus disc of Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones, Lucas joked that Yoda was "the illegitimate child of Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yod..._in_the_galaxy
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As CGI and DeepFake technology improves and subtle adjustments can be made, the reputation of Rogue One and The Mandolorian in the overall canon will only grow.

All I can say is that the last fifteen minutes of that episode gave me a teary emotional release I didn't know I had in me after this shit year.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Hell, I'm no Star Wars nerd and I teared up at the end too! That show is awesome even if a lot of the subtleties escape me.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

I haven't been around in a few weeks but discussing this show is a pretty darn good reason to be back!

My kids and I have watched this every Friday and really enjoyed it. The finale was wonderful. When I saw the X-Wing I knew, though I played the whole "What's going on?!" role for the kids for the big reveal, that was fun.

The CGI is fine. The uncanny valley will always be wide when we literally know the only way to see what we're seeing is CGI. We know it isn't 1988 so that's going to impact us anyway. I thought it worked.

I think the "leading up to an event" is a cool way of approaching these series. I'm in!

Boba Fett was always my favorite. I don't care if that's cliché. This season has been wonderful for me!
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As CGI and DeepFake technology improves and subtle adjustments can be made, the reputation of Rogue One and The Mandolorian in the overall canon will only grow.

All I can say is that the last fifteen minutes of that episode gave me a teary emotional release I didn't know I had in me after this shit year.
The best part was that I didn't expect the story to be wrapped up. WIth S3 already announced, I figured the last season would be more "focused on finding an elusive unnamed Jedi" type situation. I was surprised when the Grogu storyline came to a definitive end.

What a great series. If they can keep making shows like this, I wouldn't care if they never made another Star Wars movie again. In fact, I hope they don't.

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Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 16: The Rescue (S2E8) - Season Finale - 12/18/20

Just watched the finale tonight with my daughter, and while I knew about the Boba Fett series coming, I did manage to avoid spoilers about the big reveal until now, and I'm so glad that I did. So much emotion, so much fun!
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^ that's seriously not funny. i really thought he was in dire straits. i would ask as a person who loves Favreau and all that he does to please delete post. i think it is in poor taste, especially now, especially this year.
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^ that's seriously not funny. i really thought he was in dire straits. i would ask as a person who loves Favreau and all that he does to please delete post. i think it is in poor taste, especially now, especially this year.
I agree that's a terrible post in poor taste. When I initially saw it, I actually thought he was injured, then I read the last sentence and it turned out to be a really dumb joke.
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I agree that's a terrible post in poor taste. When I initially saw it, I actually thought he was injured, then I read the last sentence and it turned out to be a really dumb joke.
Its pretty common in the star wars Fandom and typically associated with Ewan McGregor, Adam Driver, Filoni and others.

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