fujishig

He said everyone below the showrunner level, though. I assume if you're one of the stars or been there from the beginning, you're being paid handsomely. Otherwise maybe it's better to get onto something that is going to last past the season?

johnnysd

I think that is partially true, but not to derail the topic, the problems with GOT Seasons 7 and 8 were deeper. As the seasons went along, the story diverged more and more from the books. Not in huge ways, but in significant enough ways that many of the characters were unique to the show. In addition the path to the end was quite different as well. The mistake that Benioff and Weiss made is that in the last 2 seasons they sort of shoehorned in the ending Martin originally planned, and that ending made literally no sense whatsoever for the characters as they were in the show. At all. So not only were they rushed, but also made no sense. Interestingly, it doesn't help that where Martin intended to go is pretty dumb too.

For those saying SNL has sucked for the last 22 years there are still a LOT of highlights. Example:

fujishig

The SNL thing I think is selective memory. We remember the all time great skits, and forget the, well, forgettable ones. And there are so many terrible skits, there have been even with all time great casts.

cultshock

Yeah, terrible SNL skits have existed since the beginning, but there does seem to be less and less great ones then there used to be. Oh well, I still usually watch it.

printerati

They married their long-time blonde girlfriends. I remember almost nothing about the final season, aside from the awful series finale where they all go up in a hot air balloon to try to make one of the pregnant wives go into labor.

DJariya

I watched the entire 13 episode run and ended up being a complete waste of time.

fujishig

It was a waste of time long before that though. Just erase everything after season 1 and pretend for the season 1 finale they just ran out of money. what they did to Parkman... ugh.

PhantomStranger

Writers and producers are viewed as fungible commodities in Hollywood. I am not talking about on-air talent. People behind the camera on a hit television show are tied to short contracts. Since most shows fail, studios don't want to be tied to the creative staff either in long contracts. They often stay on beyond the initial contract since many people like being comfortable and don't like job hopping, even if it pays better to jump ship.

This is why so much falls on the showrunner. They make the decisions on which staffers/producers need to be retained to keep a hit show going.

Joe Schmoe

The it-was-all-a-dream season of "Dallas".
The Conners-win-the-lottery season of "Roseanne".
The first season of "Seinfeld".
The final season of "Wings".
The final season of "Dexter".
Every season of the "Will & Grace" reboot.

JeffTheAlpaca

Even when it was good or funny I would never buy it on DVD or probably watch it again

JeffTheAlpaca

I think SNL in the early to mid 2000's was better than the cast with Will Ferrell and Co in the 90's


Brockmire Seasons 3-4

GoVegan

I hate-watched 3.5 seasons of Heroes after the first, mainly just to complain with friends about how terribly they all used their powers. Parkman's power was mind-reading and he tried to sneak up on someone without bothering to find out if they knew he was there? Cool.

I'd forgotten there even was a Heroes: Reborn show.

Michael Corvin

I wanted to watch Reborn, if nothing, for Zachary Levi. Then the reviews started rolling in. . Been burned too many times by Tim Kring. Hard pass.

ddrknghtrtns

This show along with ALF, stopped being funny when I turned 14.

JeffTheAlpaca

Just like Full House though people wanted it back for some reason