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Old 04-29-20, 09:56 PM
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Human Target: S2 is the big one. It's not even the same show.

Community: S4
24: S4 & S8
Heroes: Anything past season 1
Old 04-29-20, 09:59 PM
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Human Target: S2 is the big one. It's not even the same show.

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What didn’t you like about 24 - S4?
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Seasons 5 & 6 of One Tree Hill, I thought the majority of these episodes were boring and pretty terrible. After Lucas and Peyton left I actually liked seasons 7-9 quite a bit.
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Lost Season 6
Anything past season 1 of Heroes
The last season of Family Matters
At the Movies with Ben Lyons (after they fired Roeper and Ebert couldn't be on camera anymore)
Baywatch after season 7
Silk Stalkings after Season 6
The first season of the Fantastic Four cartoon from the 90's. (Second season was great)

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Old 04-29-20, 11:52 PM
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Seeing posts about 24 season 6 doesn’t surprise me, but the mention of season 4 does.

you have to admit, season 4 has the coolest shootout in television history:
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When Jack saves Heller from the terrorist compound


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Old 04-30-20, 12:04 AM
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The last season of Roseanne (not the revival season, which I haven't seen ... the one where they won the lottery).
Always the first sitcom I think of. The one where they won the lottery is season 9. Universally hated by fans of the show. It's an unwatchable disaster. Nothing worked. And gone was everything that made the show work up until then. It's astonishingly bad. The revival season was actually really good. And I love "The Conners". I'd like to add the last season of the original "Will & Grace" and then all three seasons of it's reboot. Just terrible. Another show that absolutely blows now is "Last Man Standing". It has sucked once it went to Fox. I can't stand the new Mandy. And Eve appearing once in a while changed everything IMO. The writing is also now really awful.
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i didn't mind 24 Season 6 nor 24 Legacy because even bad 24 is better than most things on TV and we have a real shortage of old school action shows

For me, it's Lost and Smallville (and to a lesser extent Heros) in their entirety, if those shows never existed, that would be a lot of hours of my life i would get back

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i didn't mind 24 Season 6 nor 24 Legacy because even bad 24 is better than most things on TV and we have a real shortage of old school action shows

For me, it's Lost and Smallville (and to a lesser extent Heros) in their entirety, if those shows never existed, that would be a lot of hours of my life i would get back
Speaking of hours of my life I'd like the hours I spent on that last season of How I Met Your Mother back. Some would say just forget the last episode but seeing as how that last episode completely invalidated the entire season, I'd just as soon have never watched the whole season.
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Speaking of hours of my life I'd like the hours I spent on that last season of How I Met Your Mother back. Some would say just forget the last episode but seeing as how that last episode completely invalidated the entire season, I'd just as soon have never watched the whole season.
Fair point, but at least you had the enjoyment of it being a funny sitcom, the mother was almost a background thing until the last season. Slapbet and Robin Sparkles, some of the best things ever on TV

Compare that to Lost - kept watching to see cool explanations to all the mysteries - never happened
Smallville - kept watching to see Clark become Superman and proper depictions of DC characters teased - never happened
Heroes - watched to see regular depictions of super powers on TV - never happened, instead we got 10 seconds of power display ever 5 episodes



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Originally Posted by Original Desmond View Post
Fair point, but at least you had the enjoyment of it being a funny sitcom, the mother was almost a background thing until the last season. Slapbet and Robin Sparkles, some of the best things ever on TV

Compare that to Lost - kept watching to see cool explanations to all the mysteries - never happened
Smallville - kept watching to see Clark become Superman and proper depictions of DC characters teased - never happened
Heroes - watched to see regular depictions of super powers on TV - never happened, instead we got 10 seconds of power display ever 5 episodes
Lost, I'll give you, it's similar to Game of Thrones where you can kind of see it going off the rails but you still have faith they'll pull it back, and it just doesn't happen.

Smallville, you knew from pretty early on we were never getting a cape. I dunno, I stopped watching really early on. Heroes I stuck with but I still consider it my fault, there was every indication it was never going to get back to season 1 level, what with the dropped plotlines, the low budget and their inability to write about the superpowers they gave people so that they needed to be brainwashed/memory wiped/neutered every season.

The problem with HIMYM's last season: they spend the entire season on one event. Like every single detail of that one event, hours and hours showing how Ted's moved on and that these two other people are right for each other, Ted's finally meeting the woman of his dreams, etc., and they completely destroy it in five minutes an episode later. Biggest swerve since "Who Shot JR" or "Poochie died on the way back to his home planet."

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I've mentioned this in other threads before but Millennium Season 3. Bought S1 & S2 on DVD. Still holds up well and the S2 finale makes a great series finale.
I agree with pretty much all the others mentioned so far too.
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Old 04-30-20, 11:49 AM
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Re: Television seasons you want to pretend don't exist

LOST Season 6

The way LOST Season 5 ended (below) would've been a good way to end the series. A somewhat ambiguous ending, yes, but still a good ending. However, they went on to create Season 6 and in it made up a lot of new ridiculous crap to explain everything that basically ruined the entire series.
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it ended with the nuclear bomb detonating


If LOST had ended with Season 5 as-is, without any changes to it or previous seasons, then I think LOST still would be a beloved show instead of now being constantly crapped upon due almost entirely to the awfulness that is Season 6.
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Old 04-30-20, 11:59 AM
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Re: Television seasons you want to pretend don't exist

Game of Thrones seasons 7 & 8

Three's Company Seasons 6,7,8 (after Chrissy left)

Happy Days Seasons 9, 10, 11 (after Richie left)

Bloodline Seasons 2, 3 (What a great season 1)

Weeds Seasons 6,7,8 (What is it with Showtime shows jumping off a cliff after a few seasons?)

Family Ties Seasons 5,6,7 (Once they aged Andrew from a toddler to pre-school )

Entourage, the Final Season (Once the female writers took over, it went from a mindless fun show to a serious drama and failed).
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Dexter: S6 and 8 - bad and half-assed, respectively
I would throw Dexter Season 7 in that list too. And Season 5 was redeemed mainly by Julia Stiles.

Dexter had the double-whammy of not only ending with a terrible season but also doing it at almost exactly the same time Breaking Bad was having a great ending, which made Dexter look so much worse. The final episodes of each series aired only 1 week apart and the contrast was so glaring.
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The 7th and final season of one of my favorite shows of all time; Homicide: Life on the Street... shudder

Thankfully, the finale movie ended things on a much better note.
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Game of Thrones seasons 7 & 8
I think the problem with Game of Thrones Seasons 7 & 8 isn't that they existed but that they didn't exist long enough. Both seasons were rushed to fit into fewer episodes which caused drastic plot developments that were too abrupt or too simplified to get from point A to point B. With a proper 10 episodes per season for both Seasons 7 & 8, I think the storylines could've been solidly developed and the ending of the series would've been better. Basically, for me, the problem wasn't where the storylines went, it was the completely rushed way they got there.

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Airwolf season 4.
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Old 04-30-20, 03:09 PM
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Sliders Season 3-5

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Third season transitions[edit]

Jerry O'Connell felt the first two seasons went smoothly, but then there was a significant shift in creative direction of the series with the third season, with the Fox network desiring it to be a more action-oriented show than thought-provoking.[4] John Rhys-Davies was the first star of the series to leave. Rhys-Davies stated in a 2016 interview that he had been critical of how the show was written, calling the concept what "could've been the best show on television", but most of the scripts he had been given were "incomprehensible gibberish" and missed the potential of the concept. He cited that Fox had exerted too much control on the scripts as part of the reason for his departure.[5] In a 2014 interview at the Toulouse Game Show, Rhys-Davies stated that the inability to get writers that had read science fiction in the first place led to the show's downfall, and their inexperience in the area led to the show often repurposing ideas from other works. He said, "We did an episode like Tremors, one like Twister, one like The Night of the Living Dead and even one like Doctor Moreau's Island, using the film's original masks!" He found the writers were just "looting" these ideas rather than using these as a tribute, pointing to one episode where Quinn needed to cross an invisible bridge and on approaching the writer about it, discovered he had never seen Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade which Rhys-Davies had starred in and simply used the idea instead of toying with the meta nature of the scene.[6] For Rhys-Davies, "the breaking point for me was when I walked in and saw the writers sitting around looking at a DVD of Species which had just been released and saying: 'Look, we could take a bit of that scene there and a bit of that scene there.'"[7]

The series co-creator, Tracy Tormé, has often been critical of the direction the series took in the third season.[8] Tormé called the third season two-parter "Exodus" "one of the worst pieces of television ever produced, and the low point of the entire series".[9] David Peckinpah was brought onto the series in the third season (around the time when Tormé started to criticize the show). Some argue Peckinpah's involvement in the series (and by extension Fox's more hands-on involvement) caused the show to "jump the shark",[10] despite new executive producer Marc Scott Zicree's decision to restore Tracy Tormé's original "alternate history" premise for the series in season 4.[[i]citation needed] Tormé, along with co-creators Robert K. Weiss and John Landis, all departed the show during the third season.[4]

Part of Fox's involvement in the third season was to shift production from Vancouver to Los Angeles to reduce filming costs. The recurring characters were dropped due to the expense of flying them from Vancouver to Los Angeles for filming. Bartender Elston Diggs was brought in as a recurring character for six episodes, but Peckinpah eventually rejected the concept. Logan St. Clair was created to be a recurring character, which is evident in the episode's dialogue, but only appeared once. Fox did not believe she was "sexy" enough and requested she not appear again.[11]

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If people recognize the familiar patterns, last seasons of long-running shows are often terrible. With production usually knowing in advance the show is canceled, they jump ship looking for their next gig and quit. Shows rarely retain the same creative staff more than 3-4 seasons. Most replacements are hired new guns on the cheap. If you happen to be on a hit show, you can make more money jumping to a different show. This applies to everyone below the showrunner level.
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Seasons 9 and 11 of The X-Files.

Seasons 7 and 8 of Homeland
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Oh shit, How I Met Your Mother is a good call. It was so bad I've completely forgotten about the show entirely. The final season was god awful. I'm gonna toss out an "I told you so" for it. I want to say early on when it was announced that it was going to be a gimmick full season spanning a wedding in a few days I said it would be abysmal. Everyone else around here kept positive even a half dozen episodes in. Shit continued to spiral and kept with the "they'll turn it around." No. Garbage concept. Garbage execution. Garbage conclusion to every character's arc. Lost didn't even shit the bed this poorly, and I'm a huge detractor of season 5-6 of Lost.


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What didn’t you like about 24 - S4?
The way people hate season 6 is the way people hated season 4 before it. It's only in hindsight of how bad 6 is that 4 is deemed watchable. Not sure if the threads are able to be pulled up though the search but season 4 was pretty much reviled here. After 2 amazing seasons and one almost amazing season 4 was a steaming pile of shit. Season 5 turned things into amazing again and then flipped to shitting the bed again in season 6.
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Fair point, but at least you had the enjoyment of it being a funny sitcom, the mother was almost a background thing until the last season. Slapbet and Robin Sparkles, some of the best things ever on TV

Smallville - kept watching to see Clark become Superman and proper depictions of DC characters teased - never happened
Heroes - watched to see regular depictions of super powers on TV - never happened, instead we got 10 seconds of power display ever 5 episodes
Smallville had its good moments along with some really bad ones. They were too obsessed with the no cape thing they said before the show even started and likely had a four to five year run in mind. By the time everyone was flying around him it made him look rather dumb. If Smallville was told today it would have to be at a faster pace. It took so long to get to the point far too often and the whole keeping secrets for everyone for TOO many seasons.

Heroes Reborn never happened. Too many SAVE THE WORLD storylines. Not every story has to be about the world getting destroyed.
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I loved Smallville, warts and all but even I have my limits and that limit is the Lana is a witch season. Season 4, maybe? Yeah, IIRC the entire season can be skipped.
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Stargate Universe

(At least in a universe of its own).
Actually, while I had some issues with the first half to two thirds of the first season, from there the show got really good. They really hit their stride in the 2nd season. It's a shame the show got cancelled.

I actually just watched the show for the first time on Blu Ray (1st season) and DVD (2nd season). I had boycotted it for years because it was what SyFy cancelled Stargate Atlantis to produce instead. While I like Atlantis more, Universe was a good show.
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Season 7, the alternate reality season of Once Upon a Time. The series ended perfectly with Season 6, why didn't they just let it go at that? Can you say miscast characters? Anyone want to buy a season?

Everything after Season 1 of Earth: Final Conflict. After they killed off Boone, everything just went south. Anyone want to buy a series?
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