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Old 05-21-20, 01:57 PM
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Originally Posted by ddrknghtrtns
Why not just killed off the character and let Barbara Gordon take up the Batwoman mantle. Same character different actor rarely ever works.
If they're going to do that they need to just reboot the entire show. For whatever reason, this particular character and her LGBTQ status is a big deal.

I would totally watch a Batgirl show though (or a Batwoman show with Barbara Gordon in the role).
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

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Why not just killed off the character and let Barbara Gordon take up the Batwoman mantle. Same character different actor rarely ever works.
Or a female former Robin.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

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Or a female former Robin.
Would make more sense to have Carrie take over.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Originally Posted by ddrknghtrtns
Would make more sense to have Carrie take over.
That’s what I was getting at. If they don’t recast the role as Kate they have to have a character linked to Bruce Wayne. That leaves Barbara Gordon or Carrie Kelly as the two obvious candidates with Alfred’s daughter another option. With Carrie they can even make her a friend/frenemy of Kate. She would know Luke and probably Mary. They would avoid the training period too. She would be a drop in replacement.

Of course they will probably just recast Kate.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/...s-day-krypton/

Wallis Day, who played Nyssa Vex on Krypton, is interested in the job.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

As much as I liked Ruby and love the show, I'm excited about the change. Knowing both sides weren't happy sucks. I'm glad we may get a new actor who may change the whole energy of the show.
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Old 05-28-20, 11:03 AM
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Ruby Rose:

Thank you everyone for coming on this journey. If I mentioned everyone it would be 1000 tags.. but Thank you to the cast, crew, producers and studio. It wasn’t an easy decision but those who know, know.. I didn’t want to not acknowledge everyone involved and how big this was for TV and for our community. I have stayed silent because that’s my choice for now but know I adore you all. I’m sure next season will be amazing also. Xxx *hangs up cowl and cape.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Maybe it's just me, but the costar reactions to Ruby leaving seem like they're glad she's gone. Not like, "Oh we'll miss you Ruby!" and more like, "Hey, we'll keep it movin'".
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Yeah, I'm thinking she's going to have a hard time finding another leading role for a while.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

The entire first season is now on HBO Max. It wasn’t supposed to be on there until a month before season 2. However, I guess the pandemic sped it up.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

I just watched the Season Finale last night. There's so much material they have now that someone has
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Bruce's face.
I hope the show is able to recast and move on.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...arture-1296951

Apparently Kate Kane will not be recast. They are creating a new character to become Batwoman.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Originally Posted by DJariya
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...arture-1296951

Apparently Kate Kane will not be recast. They are creating a new character to become Batwoman.
Another lesbian character as well, I was wondering how they were going to handle that.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Originally Posted by DJariya
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...arture-1296951

Apparently Kate Kane will not be recast. They are creating a new character to become Batwoman.
Wow. Wonder if/how this will affect the other characters. Will Alice or the other members of Kate's family be relevant anymore? Plus, the new Batwoman probably won't have a family tie to Bruce Wayne, I'd imagine. I wonder if the new Batwoman will be handpicked by Kate to succeed her.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Surprising decision. They might as well reboot the entire show.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

So is the paragon just Kate Kane or whomever the latest Batwoman is?
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Highly doubtful that they will ever mention that whole "Paragon" BS again.

Frankly, if they can find a replacement that won't be hamstrung by their self imposed Lesbian only criteria, who happens to be able to get along with co-workers, and is perhaps a 5 to 10% better actress than Rose, they would have come out ahead already.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
Surprising decision. They might as well reboot the entire show.
This is certainly an option, and perhaps that's why they've taken this direction. At the very least, we can get rid of the family connections in the storyline that have been dragging this show down.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

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Another lesbian character as well, I was wondering how they were going to handle that.
So only lesbians can be Batwoman?
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So only lesbians can be Batwoman?
It does seem odd, right? But I guess they committed to this and if they replaced the character with someone non LGBT there would be uproar? I really don't know.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

Why is the "We here at the CW/Batwoman Show want a Lesbian to play this role" such problem for some of you? They want authenticity in the role in that particular area. What's the big deal?
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Anyway, I LOVE that they are casting a whole new character. Less awkward than a new face playing the same character if done right.
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Why is the "We here at the CW/Batwoman Show want a Lesbian to play this role" such problem for some of you? They want authenticity in the role in that particular area. What's the big deal?
It's not a problem. They have a lesbian Batwoman that is true to the comics. They are creating a brand new character to take over the Batwoman name that is also a lesbian. I have no problem who plays the role, but it does make it seem like "only lesbians can be Batwoman." Maybe it's a plot point, I dunno.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

It does feel rather forced that it’s a new character instead of Kate Kane as Batwoman but she’s still a lesbian. Is that just a prerequisite box the show absolutely has to tick before moving forward?
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It does feel rather forced that it’s a new character instead of Kate Kane as Batwoman but she’s still a lesbian. Is that just a prerequisite box the show absolutely has to tick before moving forward?
I think some of the initial appeal of Batwoman, the comic and the show, was that it featured a superhero who was a lesbian. And it wasn't some random b-lister but the female version of Batman. But the comic also turned out to be well written with great art, so it became a hit. And I'd guess that a substantial portion of the fanbase of the show tune in because it's a prominent lesbian DC superhero. So it makes sense that the main identifying characteristic of the title character would remain "lesbian." The the LGBT demographic has become more profitable for studios, so it only makes sense for them to continue to appeal to that market.

As far as Kate Kane being written out and replaced with someone else to be Batwoman, that sounds a little messed up. The studio is staying true to the character's sexuality but not to the character herself? I would think that Batwoman fans would be upset over that.

Variety has confirmed that The CW and Warner Bros. Television are looking to cast a completely new character to play the titular superhero for the show’s second season. According to a leaked casting notice, the new lead character is currently named Ryan Wilder, with sources saying she could be played by a woman of color. She is described as:

“She’s likable, messy, a little goofy and untamed. She’s also nothing like Kate Kane, the woman who wore the batsuit before her. With no one in her life to keep her on track, Ryan spent years as a drug-runner, dodging the GCPD and masking her pain with bad habits. A girl who would steal milk for an alley cat could also kill you with her bare hands, Ryan is the most dangerous type of fighter: highly skilled and wildly undisciplined. An out lesbian. Athletic. Raw. Passionate. Fallible. And very much not your stereotypical All-American hero.”
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I'm going to speculate that ratings weren't as good as they should be for WB, so they're looking at a way to retool the show. A gay woman with white privilege wasn't cutting it, so maybe a gay "woman of color" from the streets will be better for ratings.

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