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Old 07-10-20, 04:11 PM
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I never read the Batwoman comics when she was first introduced. I was under the impression that it was pretty well regarded but I don't know for sure. Was it? Did it have any successful story arcs? Did the the show adapt them pretty faithfully?
Batwoman hit her apex in comics mostly due to J.H. Williams III's gorgeous artwork. Some of the best-looking superhero art of the past two decades. The show wasn't really much like her comics at all beyond being a lesbian. They adapted some elements straight from the comics, while drastically altering everything else.
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Batwoman hit her apex in comics mostly due to J.H. Williams III's gorgeous artwork. Some of the best-looking superhero art of the past two decades. The show wasn't really much like her comics at all beyond being a lesbian. They adapted some elements straight from the comics, while drastically altering everything else.
I like JH Williams III from his Promethea work but I was never a fan of the look or concept of the new Batwoman. So, I take it that the stories weren't anything special when the comic was popular?

I'm surprised that the show apparently deviates so much from the comic. These days, studios usually tend to adapt the most prominent storylines from these characters' books. They usually want to get fandom on board first by keep things close to the source material. I'd imagine that writing out Kate Kane would kind of suck for Batwoman fans.
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger View Post
Batwoman hit her apex in comics mostly due to J.H. Williams III's gorgeous artwork. Some of the best-looking superhero art of the past two decades. The show wasn't really much like her comics at all beyond being a lesbian. They adapted some elements straight from the comics, while drastically altering everything else.
And the momentum was ruined with the new 52. I'm not sure if the scheduling delays were because of it or just because, but at least with me it lost all momentum.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

This show, like Nancy Drew and Katy Keene, do not have a generous Netflix deal that kept many other CW shows on for years past their expiration date.


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Batwoman will almost surely get 4-5 full seasons. The CW no longer cares about broadcast ratings. The producers and studio are building a portfolio of superhero content for long-term streaming plays. They need a LGB show to round out the portfolio, which plays well with the Hollywood executives making these decisions.

If I were running the show, I'd go in a completely new direction with Batwoman. Start infusing supernatural elements into the show. The lesbian angle only goes so far and avoid making it a low-rent Arrow knock-off. Have her meet Sherlock Holmes. Send her back in time if necessary for a side trip. Not like Legends, which has become completely ungrounded from serious drama.
CW isnít getting that massive Netflix money on this. So really, itís up to HBO MAX if they continue to buy new seasons or not. If they decide No, well, CW could can it.

Netflix was required to ďbuyĒ every season of a show from the start of the contract up until the previous CW season (so Roswell is all good, even In the Dark).

why do you think CW canned Katy Keene? Itís their first, first season cancelation in a while, IIRC. Maybe Valor/Frequency/No Tomorrow were the last? I donít really remember now.
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Re: Batwoman (CW) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 10/6/19

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Batwoman hit her apex in comics mostly due to J.H. Williams III's gorgeous artwork. Some of the best-looking superhero art of the past two decades. The show wasn't really much like her comics at all beyond being a lesbian. They adapted some elements straight from the comics, while drastically altering everything else.
She was also used really well in James Tynion IV's Detective Comics run. Not sure the name of it, but it was the issues in the later 900s.
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She was also used really well in James Tynion IV's Detective Comics run. Not sure the name of it, but it was the issues in the later 900s.
IIRC, after her introduction in 52 and then Countdown, she took over Detective, so this was pre-series, but that's where the JH Williams art started. Then her solo book was announced and delayed until they just launched it as part of the new 52.
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She was also used really well in James Tynion IV's Detective Comics run. Not sure the name of it, but it was the issues in the later 900s.
This was her best. Bruce basically hired her to work with and train the young heroes of Gotham.
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This was her best. Bruce basically hired her to work with and train the young heroes of Gotham.
That whole arc is probably my favorite "Bat Family" type story. It made great use of some super underused characters like Spoiler. And it'll change how you view Clayface forever!

Decided to get off my butt and look at what issue numbers were included here. It was in Detective Comics and ran from issue 934 to 981. Look like there's maybe a
HC omnibus HC omnibus
coming out later this year, but it's also available in
TPB TPB
. Definitely worth checking out for anyone into Batman that wants to also read some cool Batwoman stuff. And Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain and some others I'm probably forgetting.
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And it'll change how you view Clayface forever!
Well, the Harley Quinn animated series has kinda changed that, too.
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Well, the Harley Quinn animated series has kinda changed that, too.
Clayface, Dr. Psycho, Ivy, and especially Bane...

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