Eric F

It was for S2.

Mike86

Gotcha. I didn’t know if it was for season one and she couldn’t for some reason or whatever. I would guess we’ll see her next year then. Can’t imagine she wouldn’t do it.

Eric F

She was literally speechless for most of the rest of the interview. She said TNG was one of the best things she ever did.

Mike86

Probably a yes then. Cool, I’m down to see what Guinan is up to now days.

Noonan

Guinan coming back would be amazing. Top 3 characters from TNG IMO.

Eric F

When I get home from the hospital I know what I'm rewatching.

lisadoris

I love Guinan so this is awesome. It's even cooler considering the hoops Goldberg had to jump through to get the job on TNG.

OldBoy

i saw that. she really got emotional. said filming that series was best time she ever had and still gushes about it...

Eric F

She genuinely loves the show and talks all the time about it. They should have used her character more across all the series and movies,. I never really understood why they didn't.

Mike86

Yeah, last we saw her was in Generations. So it’s been a long time since she’s played the character.

Eric F

And they left that sort of open ended, where she could essentially come back at any given place or time.

Mike86

So the Star Trek on CBS All Access Facebook page posted that episodes drop Wednesday at midnight. Guess I’ll be staying up waiting for it. I’ll start the thread for episode one once the title and synopsis is put up later on.

Giantrobo

I LOVE that. I've seen it 2 or 3 times and I get choked up with each viewing. Her reaction is so genuine. I'm also happy that my expectation that this post would be full of negative comments about this was wrong. I'm in a "Star Trek Discovery" group that literally has "POSITIVE FANS" in the name to discourage hatin' ass fandom/Trekkie trolls and even in there people are being assholes about Whoopie coming to s2 of Picard.

Eric F

Why would someone have something negative to say about someone who genuinely enjoyed their role? The Guinan character was a good one too. I just don't understand some people.

OldBoy

I’ve never seen any series, but liked most of the movies, oddly, new and old cast, but really want to see this one for some reason. Can’t wait to binge it. What 8 eps?

Josh-da-man

I've always liked Guinan even though the character is primarily a vehicle to squeeze a celebrity into a recurring character spot on the show. Which is a testament to the strength of Goldberg (and Stewart's) performance and the quality of the writing.

I'm not sure if Guinan could be considered to be a magical negro, though, since is she is explicitly not human, but the sage, advice-dispensing character certainly seems to fit the stereotype. I could see that being off-putting to some people; Stephen King's apparent fascination with the trope can be kind of cringey, but since Whoopi is playing Mother Abigail in The Stand, I don't she minds.

Speaking of Guinan, I liked the "Time's Arrow" two-parter more when I realized that story explained the complex relationship between Picard and Guinan. And I've always been disappointed that we never got to see what happened between Guinan and Q in the past.

Mike86

The people I’ve seen who are upset over her being offered to reprise her role are those who disagree with her political views.

Eric F

Which has nothing to do with her acting. The Guinan character was pretty liberal anyways.

Mike86

Yeah. I could really give a shit less about her politics. I also find it funny when I read more conservative complaints about Star Trek. The entire series is pretty damn liberal and has definite underlying messages about equality. Nothing new at all about that.

OldBoy

It’s just like other actors with strong views. I’ll watch Tim Robbins, Mel Gibson, etc...I may not agree, especially Gibson, but I judge acting bc I’m watching a movie. Which, is not real and they are portraying a character, that usually isn’t a real person. Just a fictitious entity on a screen. Even if real person, I’m watching a recreation of real life. A theatrical movie. That’s all...

PatD

Actually, the last time we saw the character was in Nemesis (at Riker's wedding). It was a pointless, forgettable cameo that did an injustice to such a wonderful character.

Mike86

I don’t even remember that, but it’s been a while since I’ve watched Nemesis.

Eric F

I don't remember that either. But that's proof they can do whatever they want with the character.

brayzie

That's definitely what it felt like at the time when she first appeared.

In hindsight her character kind of looks like that trope. But as someone mentioned before, there's also the trope of the bartender who gives advice to patrons, so there's that.
Either way she was a great addition to the cast, and was a better counselor than Troi

I found out a short while back that she was actually a big Star Trek fan and had to lobby to get on the show because it meant so much to her. That definitely makes me appreciate her character even more.

Guinan returning only makes sense since she's supposed to have lived for so long. Way more sense than Data coming back.


Same. When Q says, "You don't know her Picard..." I was expecting that was going to be a set up for a future storyline, where Guinan had this crazy, questionable past, or she had some crazy powers like Phoenix from X-Men...something. Instead we just find out she's either immortal or really, really old.
I also thought her and Picard were eventually going to have a brief romance on the show.

I know people complain about politics in comics, but hasn't Star Trek always been the original "SJW" show? Or is there actually a difference between TOS, TNG and Discovery?

Shannon Nutt

There's no way she didn't already know. That's not how casting works.