Star Trek: Picard (Paramount+) -- News, rumors, etc.
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#152
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That bolded part alone tells me you don't know what you're talking about.
DISCOVERY has tons of humanity both in humans and aliens. You guys claim you want humanity in ST but when they give it to you in a character like Burnahm you hate her...you hate her being in touch with her human emotions....you hate her being in touch with Vulcan lack of emotions...You HATE HER. I saw post after post bitching that DISCOVERY was being too emotional/Human.
DISCOVERY has tons of humanity both in humans and aliens. You guys claim you want humanity in ST but when they give it to you in a character like Burnahm you hate her...you hate her being in touch with her human emotions....you hate her being in touch with Vulcan lack of emotions...You HATE HER. I saw post after post bitching that DISCOVERY was being too emotional/Human.
What I saw of Discovery had zero kindness, compassion, empathy, or sympathy. It wasn't a better future. It was cold and mechanical. The whole production lacked warmth. Everything had a cold steel sheen to it.
I strongly suspect that Roddenberry would NOT have approved.
#153
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So regarding Data coming back, I had seen a video which might explain it. I wouldn’t call it a spoiler as it’s something that’s been out for a while. Obviously there’s no confirmation this is true yet either. Back when the first Abrams film came out in 2009 there was a prequel tie-in comic called Countdown which is supposed to be canon. In that it’s explained that Data was successfully able to transfer himself to B-4. Curious if that’ll actually be the explanation in this series or if it’ll be something else (holodeck or some kind of flashback).
#154
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Part of that stems from what I said, cause he wasn't from our trek he was from you know where. That was a HUGE reason for the tone of the show. But I didn't mention another MASSIVE problem with the show..Burnahm , probably the worst trek character in trek history not to mention one basically "leading" the show. I still hate her as a character after all this time. Now as others mentioned and I went on about at length when he first came on the show, Pike. Now THAT'S a trek character.
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DISCOVERY has tons of humanity both in humans and aliens. You guys claim you want humanity in ST but when they give it to you in a character like Burnahm you hate her...you hate her being in touch with her human emotions....you hate her being in touch with Vulcan lack of emotions...You HATE HER. I saw post after post bitching that DISCOVERY was being too emotional/Human.
The Lorca criticism sounded about right but the other stuff...not so much.
#156
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So regarding Data coming back, I had seen a video which might explain it. I wouldn’t call it a spoiler as it’s something that’s been out for a while. Obviously there’s no confirmation this is true yet either. Back when the first Abrams film came out in 2009 there was a prequel tie-in comic called Countdown which is supposed to be canon. In that it’s explained that Data was successfully able to transfer himself to B-4. Curious if that’ll actually be the explanation in this series or if it’ll be something else (holodeck or some kind of flashback).
#157
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The emotions lacking in Discovery were kindness and compassion. Empathy and sympathy. Roddenberry created Trek to exemplify those emotions. It was about hope for a better future.
What I saw of Discovery had zero kindness, compassion, empathy, or sympathy. It wasn't a better future. It was cold and mechanical. The whole production lacked warmth. Everything had a cold steel sheen to it.
I strongly suspect that Roddenberry would NOT have approved.
What I saw of Discovery had zero kindness, compassion, empathy, or sympathy. It wasn't a better future. It was cold and mechanical. The whole production lacked warmth. Everything had a cold steel sheen to it.
I strongly suspect that Roddenberry would NOT have approved.
It is war time Star Trek so that does take some of the optimistic, exploring the galaxy aspects away but I quite enjoyed it as a dramatic series.
Now my quandry is whether to subscribe so that I can watch Season 2 and the upcoming Picard or to be patient and wait for the blu-rays. My TV viewing time is limited and I don't know that I'd watch anything else but Trek content. Ahh, I'll sleep on it.
#159
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Holodeck makes a lot of sense, but so does B-4. There's no way Data's ORIGINAL body returns, since it was blown to bits - so if he does come back, it will have to be some kind of transfer. I note in the trailer than his eyes are completely different (all yellow instead of just the irises).
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^^
I would prefer Dr. Crusher and Guinan make an appearance since they were close to Picard. It would be more apropos than having a characters from other shows being shoehorned in.
I would prefer Dr. Crusher and Guinan make an appearance since they were close to Picard. It would be more apropos than having a characters from other shows being shoehorned in.
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One of the biggest problems with Discovery is the lack of direction with what they want to do with the show. They don't want to go with the planet/alien of the week format so they try and make it one long storyline. The problem was the first 3 or 4 episodes focused on the tardigrad thing, then that was dropped without a real conclusion and they jumped onto something else. Then they were in the mirror universe and the story was going in one direction and then it just went off on anither tangent. It just seems like the whole season wondered aimlessly around but you never get a full conclusion to what they were working towards before they jumped to something else. I haven't seen the second season so I don't know if they omproved much, but due to how bad the first season was, I'm not in much of a hurry to go watch it. I'll likely catch up when I pay for All Acess to watch Picard, but I won't pay to watch it before that point.
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2nd trailer from NYCC
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Some more familiar faces in the new one. Looks amazing.
Premieres January 23rd.
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Some more familiar faces in the new one. Looks amazing.
Premieres January 23rd.
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Teared up a bit. This was my Star Trek. The feeling I got watching that trailer has to be how fans of the Original series felt watching the original crew back together in their movies. Your old friends are back in town.
#173
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This is looking great. So ready for it. Data does look off though. It’s easier to accept that the rest of them have aged and I know Data needs to somewhat resemble how he looked but you can tell by the hairline and face that he’s older.
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Since this appears to be happening while Picard is dreaming, Data looking slightly different or older could easily be explained off as since it is not reality.