jfoobar

With all of its rather conspicuous flaws, this season did bring us some wonderful moments mixed in with the mess. I think this was one of them.

I agree that it seems unlikely that Jon would not have been murdered by Grey Worm but I guess you to cut the writers some slack on that one for the purposes of the story.

I found Samwell's plea for democracy (and the reaction to it) rather ham-handed, silly and unnecessary. On that note, I wonder why Sam and Arya were even there. Brienne at least was a knight and I guess she is officially the heir to Tarth.

All in all, it was a moderately satisfactory ending I suppose.

Nefarious

Before Jon enters the throne room we see him come upon a resting Drogon who wakes and investigates who is coming in. If it had been anyone suspicious, Drogon wouldn't have let him pass.

Drogon has only himself to blame since he let the killer in. He didn't have a good excuse so he flew off with the evidence.

ctyankee

You should write a book: The Thoughts of Dragons

mugwump

Bran as King is going to be a real hoot. Border dispute? "The border is just where it needs to be." Marital infidelity? "His schwantz is just where it needs to be." The Six Kingdoms is being ruled by the fifth Beatle beaked out on LSD.

And the Starks sure came away with all the goods, they get to rule the Six and the independent North. Seriously, no one under those tarps had any objections to this outcome? Why didn't they all just claim independence and go right back to war?

melasnus

This was played WAY too ham-fisted, way too obvious.
It's just the times we live in now.

Exactly.
I'm not sure if it's possible to be able to judge if a DRAGON is "nuts" or not, but OK.

coli

Let's just a say a majority of co-workers did not like the episode, as this is not an internet thing. I am the lone wolf at work defending this episode, as people are really disappointed. I have to say that I did not go into the last episode with high expectations as I have been burned by series finales too many times (Seinfeld, The Sopranos, etc) so I pretty much knew this episode would not blow me away.

ctyankee

What using his brain? You got me there.

But riddle me this .... since we're talking about the (apparently) resolute "character" of Jon Snow ... where does murdering a former lover while in her embrace and the Queen you bent the knee to fall? I must have missed that episode.

Why So Blu?

Arya should have used her many faces trick and disguised herself as Jon Snow, stabbed Dany.

The bummer with that is that Jon would still have not done much anything. He literally had one job and he did it, so I have nothing.

story

With respect, if we just shrug at how it is now, trust me, it's only going to get worse.

Mordred

The thing about that scene is that unlike Ned and Robb, Jon learned from their mistakes and finally (finally!) did the wrong thing for the right reasons. He was fully prepared to take responsibility and face the punishment, just like Varys and Tyrion were.

Plus, "Drogon did it" is a pretty fucking dumb excuse when it's already been established multiple times to all the characters that matter, that DANY. IS. IMMUNE. TO. FIRE.

spainlinx0

Not immune to getting her head bitten off though.

Gunde

Who the fuck cares about this shit? You need every little thing spelled out?

maxfisher

majorjoe23

Mordred

Benjen Stark (Coldhands) was killed in Season 7 in the Deus Ex Machina that saves Jon after he's left alone North of the Wall. There was never any explanation as to how/why he ended up that way, or why he stayed aligned with men when he seems to be half a White Walker.

funkyryno

He also was Bran's Deus Ex Machina savior in Season 6 after the fall of Hold The Door. After the rescue, he explained how he ended up that way (the Children of the Forest saved him).

Mordred

Shit. It's been so long since season 6 I forgot about that.

jfoobar

Yeah, I kind of liked him coming to the rescue once. It gave fans some closure on Benjen. But to have him appear a second time, at just the right moment, and at a location probably 100+ miles from where he appeared last time, was some of the worst writing of S7.

Why So Blu?

I suppose. I was just spitballing.

Viper187

He was already dead. I wasn't aware the Whitewalkers carried Valeryian steel or forking Dragon Glass.

Why So Blu?

I think it works because the dragon concentrates the flame to melt it. He's not using it to firebomb or as a projectile. He's just using it like a flamethrower on that one spot.

musick

the best part was actually Jon covering his face with his arm to avoid the flames
I get heat singe roasting s'mores from afar with a stick over a small campfire
he would have been burnt to a crisp standing near that blast furnace .... good thing they didn't have hair spray back then (though a bottle may be sited on set if you look hard enough based on past episodes)

Draven

Ah yes, we all understand exactly how the radiant heat of dragonfire works

eXcentris

Do bigger dragons pack more heat?

Jason

They didn't have any original source material to work with, and we have no idea how detailed (or vague) the outlines and notes were that Martin allegedly provided. Certainly everything that came after Drogon flew away with Dany's body was cobbled together from notes on the back of a napkin or something.

Overall I enjoyed the last few seasons for what they were. I understand that showing the long voyages in between locations was unnecessary because there were trips of urgency, not of discovery. I understand that as events move towards a conclusion they move faster. I didn't think characters acted outside of their established personalities, either. Jamie was always conflicted in his feelings or Cercei, and Dany was every bit as vindictive and vicious in the beginning as she was when she burned Kings Landing. It's just that she was burning "bad" people, so we elevated her to the status of hero.

I'm not saying the finale was perfect. Far from it, but there's a lot of room between perfect and trash. Anyhow, it's the finale we have. All the griping in the world isn't going to change anything.