Game of Thrones (S8E05) -- 78 minute episode -- “The Bells” -- 5/12/19
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Solid viewpoint:
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about those megan ellison tweets - I think it's unwarranted to think that a character has to "earn" her motivation over a pre-defined amount of time in order to make it justifiable to snap and commit mass murder. At the end of season 7 there was no way she would have done what she did. But the fact that she lost Rhaegal, Jorah, Jon and Varys in the span of two episodes to me is enough of a reason to turn. It triggered her mad queen gene.
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OK so who was it on here that called Jamie Lanister growing his hand back?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/enter...rnd/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/enter...rnd/index.html
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OK so who was it on here that called Jamie Lanister growing his hand back?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/enter...rnd/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/enter...rnd/index.html
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Movie producer Megan Ellison, the founder of Annapura Pictures, put out a pretty nasty tweet to Weiss and Benioff.
https://twitter.com/meganeellison/st...75511432847360
But she later backtracked. I think she realized her comments were pretty unprofessional.
https://twitter.com/meganeellison/st...15327021637640
https://twitter.com/meganeellison/st...55562837217281
https://twitter.com/meganeellison/st...75511432847360
But she later backtracked. I think she realized her comments were pretty unprofessional.
https://twitter.com/meganeellison/st...15327021637640
https://twitter.com/meganeellison/st...55562837217281
Hollywood is a very, very small community. Where not playing nice in public can be a career-ending move.
Calling these guys out as "obviously sexist fucks" .... did anyone see that coming? No? So ... how different is she than Dany?
If women have a problem with the stereotype of going bat-shit crazy, perhaps they shouldn't act that way and set women back in the process.
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Dany looked on impassionately as Drago poured molten gold over her brother's head killing him and some expected her to be some delicate flower. She burns up the slaver, the Dothraki leaders, etc. and some still expected her to be some delicate flower. She's shown her bad side over and over. We just didn't want to see it.
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Yup. Let's assume that Dany dies. Honestly, I think the show ends with the last of the Targaryen bloodline (at least how it exists in the show) being stamped from the earth. That means that someway, somehow, Jon dies also. Who has the best claim to the Iron Throne at this point. Since Gendry has been legitimized by royal decree, wouldn't it be him? The deaths of Dany and Jon (and perhaps Tyrion as well) will provide a lot of gravitas to the final episode but the show ending with Gendry and Arya on the throne with Sansa as warden of the north would still give fans their "happy"-ish ending.
For someone with so little air-time before this season to be sitting on the Iron Throne? That's waaay out of left field. Are they setting up a very gifted blacksmith to sit on the Iron Throne? Seems to me he should be designing the next Iron Throne, not sitting on it.
That said, Arya could be queen and Gendry her Prince Phillip.
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Dany looked on impassionately as Drago poured molten gold over her brother's head killing him and some expected her to be some delicate flower. She burns up the slaver, the Dothraki leaders, etc. and some still expected her to be some delicate flower. She's shown her bad side over and over. We just didn't want to see it.
No doubt Gendry's stock has definitely risen. And I heard people theorizing about him before this season even started. However, for the average viewer, this would be ridiculed worse than the finale of Lost.
For someone with so little air-time before this season to be sitting on the Iron Throne? That's waaay out of left field. Are they setting up a very gifted blacksmith to sit on the Iron Throne? Seems to me he should be designing the next Iron Throne, not sitting on it.
For someone with so little air-time before this season to be sitting on the Iron Throne? That's waaay out of left field. Are they setting up a very gifted blacksmith to sit on the Iron Throne? Seems to me he should be designing the next Iron Throne, not sitting on it.
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How did Jaime's returning to the woman he can't get over destroy all of his character development? Despite being an interesting, well portrayed character, despite his keeping his personal word to defend the North, despite his relationship with Brienne, he was haunted by personal demons, a family destiny he could not escape, and a love gone so very, very, wrong. He may not have been an outright villain, but he was hardly a good man.
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Thanks for that.
Hollywood is a very, very small community. Where not playing nice in public can be a career-ending move.
Calling these guys out as "obviously sexist fucks" .... did anyone see that coming? No? So ... how different is she than Dany?
If women have a problem with the stereotype of going bat-shit crazy, perhaps they shouldn't act that way and set women back in the process.
Hollywood is a very, very small community. Where not playing nice in public can be a career-ending move.
Calling these guys out as "obviously sexist fucks" .... did anyone see that coming? No? So ... how different is she than Dany?
If women have a problem with the stereotype of going bat-shit crazy, perhaps they shouldn't act that way and set women back in the process.
Maybe Dany was just on her period?
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Dany looked on impassionately as Drago poured molten gold over her brother's head killing him and some expected her to be some delicate flower. She burns up the slaver, the Dothraki leaders, etc. and some still expected her to be some delicate flower. She's shown her bad side over and over. We just didn't want to see it.
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I can't believe people still are arguing that it wasn't a complete leap.
I have no problem with her eventually going Mad Queen, but I'm sorry, we were not there yet. You can blah blah about foreshadowing, and prophecy (which they have ignored already countless times, so stop acting like that means anything anymore), but I just don't think she was there yet to burn all those innocent people. Yes, absolutely destroying the Red Keep after surrender, I could buy, but just literally flying back and forth and destroying the entirety of King's Landing? No, I'm sorry, but they did not lay enough groundwork for that.
Everyone keeps talking about all the bad shit she's done, about who she's burned, but who do they bring up? All people who either didn't bend the knee, in open defiance, or scumbag slavers and the like. This is a completely different thing, and to say, "oh they didn't love her", I'm not going to side with that as her taking that as a valid reason to light up the whole fucking city, after they have thrown down their weapons and surrender.
Nevermind the fact that Grey Worm, who seemed like a quite honorable guy, decides it's OK to kill soldiers who have laid down their weapons? Was that in character? Have we seen that before? I understand he just lost the love of his life, but really?
I have no problem with her eventually going Mad Queen, but I'm sorry, we were not there yet. You can blah blah about foreshadowing, and prophecy (which they have ignored already countless times, so stop acting like that means anything anymore), but I just don't think she was there yet to burn all those innocent people. Yes, absolutely destroying the Red Keep after surrender, I could buy, but just literally flying back and forth and destroying the entirety of King's Landing? No, I'm sorry, but they did not lay enough groundwork for that.
Everyone keeps talking about all the bad shit she's done, about who she's burned, but who do they bring up? All people who either didn't bend the knee, in open defiance, or scumbag slavers and the like. This is a completely different thing, and to say, "oh they didn't love her", I'm not going to side with that as her taking that as a valid reason to light up the whole fucking city, after they have thrown down their weapons and surrender.
Nevermind the fact that Grey Worm, who seemed like a quite honorable guy, decides it's OK to kill soldiers who have laid down their weapons? Was that in character? Have we seen that before? I understand he just lost the love of his life, but really?
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I understand he just lost the love of his life, but really?
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good point, maybe so. It bugged me more, but it's not like we had a lot of insight into his character, so maybe it was the dishonorable nature that bothered me, and he always seemed honorable. But your explanation makes sense too.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S8E05) -- 78 minute episode -- “The Bells” -- 5/12/19
Missandei's death meant the one person who made him HUMAN is gone. Before her, he was just a eunuch soldier trained to kill...that's it. He was dreaming of a life with her after the war. That was all taken from him. That plus his loyalty to Danny means Greyworm has nothing to lose. "Fuck this city..."
People forget...VERY FEW characters on this show are 100% Pure/Good or Rotten/Evil. Even Cersie loved her children like no one else and seemed a great mother. Everyone has a dark and a light side.
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Thanks for that.
Hollywood is a very, very small community. Where not playing nice in public can be a career-ending move.
Calling these guys out as "obviously sexist fucks" .... did anyone see that coming? No? So ... how different is she than Dany?
If women have a problem with the stereotype of going bat-shit crazy, perhaps they shouldn't act that way and set women back in the process.
Hollywood is a very, very small community. Where not playing nice in public can be a career-ending move.
Calling these guys out as "obviously sexist fucks" .... did anyone see that coming? No? So ... how different is she than Dany?
If women have a problem with the stereotype of going bat-shit crazy, perhaps they shouldn't act that way and set women back in the process.
Not sure my point, other than to mention that claims of sexism aren't necessarily unwarranted, but I would argue they probably are...