Game of Thrones (S8E03) -- 82 minute episode -- “The Long Night” -- 4/28/19
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Re: Game of Thrones (S8E03) -- 82 minute episode -- “The Long Night” -- 4/28/19
Well, all of those previous characters WERE important, until they weren't anymore... As Noonan mentioned, ever since the show has not had the books blueprint to follow, characters would be much more likely to get a last-second-save than get taken out. For example, the show has gone out of its way to say that Jamie is not half the fighter he used to be since he lost his hand, but that hasn't stopped him from surviving how many battles now?
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Jon got POV chapters as well. Last thing GRRM wrote was him being killed; only for the show to bring him back asap since he was a fan favorite.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S8E03) -- 82 minute episode -- “The Long Night” -- 4/28/19
i thought he might soar through the air and lop off the dragon’s head, but I like the fact that he didn’t do that or even make it to help Bran.
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Loved it all. Especially the part where Arya used the Rey maneuver from The Last Jedi to kill the Night King.
I'm actually surprised Brienne and Tormund survived, but I ain't complaining.
I'm actually surprised Brienne and Tormund survived, but I ain't complaining.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S8E03) -- 82 minute episode -- “The Long Night” -- 4/28/19
Not to pile on but... I didn't have too much of an issue with the darkness on my TV... I'm watching the Inside The Episode stuff on my work computer now... shiiiiit. The footage looks terrible.
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The writing of the last two books in my opinion was meandering and added a lot more characters and they still don’t have all the piece moved to the right places .... just more side characters added. The show is far from perfect but neither are the books to be honest.
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I consider the books finished until there's an actual release date and cover art. Plus, by the time HBO wrote his resurrection, there was enough time for them to see the outcry of book readers who liked him plus the fact that he polled VERY well with the show's audience. IMO, he was brought back purely due to fan outcry; not because GRRM wanted or planned it.
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As it's all sinking in still lot of complaints from me. The directing in a LOT of places sucked, way to close to the action to see it properly that annoyed the crap out of me. Then some of you mention GRRM hasn't wrote the books out this far and writing suffers. For me Arya getting the kill literally out of no where , was the "writers" going oh hey GRRM said she does it in the books, we have to throw that in there we almost forgot. But lot of it was EPIC in scale and what not. I'm torn as a whole though I think looking back.
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I consider the books finished until there's an actual release date and cover art. Plus, by the time HBO wrote his resurrection, there was enough time for them to see the outcry of book readers who liked him plus the fact that he polled VERY well with the show's audience. IMO, he was brought back purely due to fan outcry; not because GRRM wanted or planned it.
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Exactly. They took the easy way out and gave fans what they wanted. Much easier to write when fan theories have most everything covered for you already. As I mentioned earlier; HBO has been considering fans since day 1 of them writing (Jon coming back and beyond), whereas GRRM was writing his books to tell the story he wanted, not the story fans wanted to read. Just coincidence that literally right after the book story ended a major, fan favorite character comes back to life? They brought Cat back in the books but that was only during an Epilogue and she was a dis-formed zombie. Never to be heard from again in the books (to date).
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Re: Game of Thrones (S8E03) -- 82 minute episode -- “The Long Night” -- 4/28/19
Eh, I enjoyed it, it was a fun ride. But yeah, it was dark as hell, I had my lights off and some things were still hard to make out. But other than that, the quality was decent and not much artifacting, which I was surprised about considering all the darkness, snow and clouds, my stream was pretty good in that regard at least.
Forget the movie (which I had no desire to see), the last several books, especially the last one, were a huge disappointment for a story I had been following since I was a teenager. Ugh!
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Exactly. They took the easy way out and gave fans what they wanted. Much easier to write when fan theories have most everything covered for you already. As I mentioned earlier; HBO has been considering fans since day 1 of them writing (Jon coming back and beyond), whereas GRRM was writing his books to tell the story he wanted, not the story fans wanted to read. Just coincidence that literally right after the book story ended a major, fan favorite character comes back to life? They brought Cat back in the books but that was only during an Epilogue and she was a dis-formed zombie. Never to be heard from again in the books (to date).
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Eh, I enjoyed it, it was a fun ride. But yeah, it was dark as hell, I had my lights off and some things were still hard to make out. But other than that, the quality was decent and not much artifacting, which I was surprised about considering all the darkness, snow and clouds, my stream was pretty good in that regard at least.
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I'm just glad I still have a big plasma TV in my basement setup. As soon as I saw how dark this episode was going to be I bailed on the bigger LED and scuttled downstairs to enjoy some nice, dark black levels. Still looked a bit washed out but a much better overall experience. And if this series ends with anything less than the full fury of the wounded and decimated victors being brought to bear on the back-stabbing Southerners I'm going to be pissed. I want to see the filthy and disheveled Northern army lay waste to King's Landing and establish the new kingdom in Winterfell. Of course I fully expect them to puss out but a boy can dream.
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Sure, that could be it. But we'll never know because of how they filmed it. Seeing that would have added A LOT however it also would have made it obvious how it was going to end, even though it was already kinda pointed out when Red Witch mentioned her killing blue eyes. This is a show which is usually overflowing with detail and world building. Leaving all that out so the audience didn't know she'd be there is mickey mouse writing tactics.
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After watching this season's three episodes, I now vote for my new favorite to sit on the Iron Throne at the end:
Spoiler:
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Or perhaps they banked on the world building they've already done, spending multiple seasons building up Arya's skills as a crafty and deceptive assassin, and gave the audience some credit that it shouldn't be necessary to spell out whatever specific tactic Arya used to mount a surprise attack against the Night King.
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I'm not sure how much the client side bandwidth has been playing into other people's experiences, but I have gigabit fiber and my smart TV uses wired ethernet and the HBO Now stream looked excellent with very little artifacting for me. It was certainly dark, but that was a production choice, not a symptom of potential streaming issues.
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You do realize that there are fans out there who don't care about The Avengers, so it's not a golden age of cinema for everyone.
I thought the plot point of the White Walkers was essentially uneccessary and side tracked the show, and was there just to give a certain part of the fanbase a 'wow' episode.
Again, sorry if I don't share your love for this episode and The Avengers. It's cool that you love both, but don't call out people like me for not loving it as I'm not jaded as the last season has been a different show than the previous 6 seasons.
I thought the plot point of the White Walkers was essentially uneccessary and side tracked the show, and was there just to give a certain part of the fanbase a 'wow' episode.
Again, sorry if I don't share your love for this episode and The Avengers. It's cool that you love both, but don't call out people like me for not loving it as I'm not jaded as the last season has been a different show than the previous 6 seasons.
The White Walkers ARE really the story of ASOIAF but the GOT show has not done as well with them as the books. The wall, Night's Watch, North are all really about the White Walkers so it could not really be taken out. I thought the episode was OK. WAY too dark, I think it would have been way more visually exciting in daylight maybe moving into dusk for the end. Best scenes were really in the crypt, especially Sansa and Tyrion. Not sure how it would exactly get there, but
Spoiler:
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Exactly. They took the easy way out and gave fans what they wanted. Much easier to write when fan theories have most everything covered for you already. As I mentioned earlier; HBO has been considering fans since day 1 of them writing (Jon coming back and beyond), whereas GRRM was writing his books to tell the story he wanted, not the story fans wanted to read. Just coincidence that literally right after the book story ended a major, fan favorite character comes back to life? They brought Cat back in the books but that was only during an Epilogue and she was a dis-formed zombie. Never to be heard from again in the books (to date).
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I consider the books finished until there's an actual release date and cover art. Plus, by the time HBO wrote his resurrection, there was enough time for them to see the outcry of book readers who liked him plus the fact that he polled VERY well with the show's audience. IMO, he was brought back purely due to fan outcry; not because GRRM wanted or planned it.
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I'm not sure how much the client side bandwidth has been playing into other people's experiences, but I have gigabit fiber and my smart TV uses wired ethernet and the HBO Now stream looked excellent with very little artifacting for me. It was certainly dark, but that was a production choice, not a symptom of potential streaming issues.
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I'll have to rewatch the scene. Was there an officially an order to charge or maybe the Doraki was just too battle hungry that they took off on their own ambition?