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I love the LA Confidential feel of this show. I was not interested in this based on the character's previous shows, but a friend recommended it. Love it.
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Fantastic episode last night. Lithgow put in some of the best acting I have seen in a while. Amazing. I like this show the more and more I watch it. I am definitely up for more not one and done. Obviously
Spoiler:
Perry Mason has to become a lawyer in the next episode or 2 and still not sure how they exactly accomplish that.


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Originally Posted by johnnysd View Post
Fantastic episode last night. Lithgow put in some of the best acting I have seen in a while. Amazing. I like this show the more and more I watch it. I am definitely up for more not one and done. Obviously
Spoiler:
Perry Mason has to become a lawyer in the next episode or 2 and still not sure how they exactly accomplish that.




Spoiler:
I don't recall what his rank was during the WWI scenes but if he was an officer it would imply he had attended college. For all we know he's already an attorney but doesn't practice since his life is so f'ed up. That would seem unlikely but the only alternative is a montage sequence showing him going to law school and passing the bar which I can't imagine happening.


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Originally Posted by mugwump View Post
Spoiler:
I don't recall what his rank was during the WWI scenes but if he was an officer it would imply he had attended college. For all we know he's already an attorney but doesn't practice since his life is so f'ed up. That would seem unlikely but the only alternative is a montage sequence showing him going to law school and passing the bar which I can't imagine happening.





Spoiler:
Cut it to a scratchy swing jazz version of "You're the Best Around"




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Originally Posted by mugwump View Post
Spoiler:
I don't recall what his rank was during the WWI scenes but if he was an officer it would imply he had attended college. For all we know he's already an attorney but doesn't practice since his life is so f'ed up. That would seem unlikely but the only alternative is a montage sequence showing him going to law school and passing the bar which I can't imagine happening.




Spoiler:
I checked and you definitely DID need to pass the bar, though back then you could just take it and become a lawyer without going to law school. Maybe thats how it is done, he just passes the bar from all the experience he has had


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Originally Posted by johnnysd View Post
Spoiler:
I checked and you definitely DID need to pass the bar, though back then you could just take it and become a lawyer without going to law school. Maybe thats how it is done, he just passes the bar from all the experience he has had




It's still that way today.
Spoiler:
WORK

Kim Kardashian West plans to become a lawyer without going to law schoolóhereís how


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/17/how-...aw-degree.html


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It's a pet peeve but Perry's beard (or stubble, if you like) bugs me. I know it's supposed to signal his seediness and grit, but it takes a certain kind of prissy man-scaping to keep your beard at just the right level of growth without any indication of it veering into a real beard or some moment of being freshly shaven.
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Originally Posted by Decker View Post
It's still that way today.
Spoiler:
WORK

Kim Kardashian West plans to become a lawyer without going to law schoolóhereís how


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/17/how-...aw-degree.html



Interesting.
Spoiler:
You used to just be able to take it like the SAT, but this seems like an interesting compromise. Didn't know this existed.


Not sure why this detail bothers me so much just really curious how they handle it. Fantastic show though
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It's a pet peeve but Perry's beard (or stubble, if you like) bugs me. I know it's supposed to signal his seediness and grit, but it takes a certain kind of prissy man-scaping to keep your beard at just the right level of growth without any indication of it veering into a real beard or some moment of being freshly shaven.
To be honest everything about Matthew Rhy's performance and appearance in this just screams modern day. I doesn't really bother me but it can be jarring when he butts up against someone who seems so steeped in the time like Shea Whigham who of course got a head start on embodying this era from his time doing "Boardwalk Empire."
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This show is getting very "HBO" in the sense that it's mostly character driven with multiple story lines going on, rather than a miniseries about a murder/detective. I'm not sure why I didn't expect it with this one.
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re: Perry Mason (HBO) - S: Matthew Rhys - premieres 6/21/20

Change the name of the lead character, and this could have been season four of True Detective.
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Missed seeing the beat police officer in this episode. The actor who plays him is in the main cast credits, so his storyline can't be finished yet.

Speaking of casting, surprised that Stephen Root is buried in the "Guest Starring" section given his character's prominence in the series and his body of work. A part of me wonders if actors cynically ask to be billed as "Guest Stars" because they think they have a better chance of getting an Emmy nomination in the "Guest Star" category.

Love seeing the hummingbirds. I watched them drink from feeders in the backyard, and it is astonishing how they they moved with such precision, stopping on a dime and hovering perfectly in mid-air as though they were mechanical drones.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Change the name of the lead character, and this could have been season four of True Detective.
That makes sense since Nic Pizzolatto was originally on board with RDJ attached as the lead. RDJ is still listed as an EP of the show but Nic isnít included in the credits.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Change the name of the lead character, and this could have been season four of True Detective.
I agree but it will take a turn where there wont be totally true anymore. Will be interesting to see once they transition if they can keep the mood of the show
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Great episode and finally gives us the rise of Perry Mason, Esq.
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Originally Posted by johnnysd View Post
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I checked and you definitely DID need to pass the bar, though back then you could just take it and become a lawyer without going to law school. Maybe thats how it is done, he just passes the bar from all the experience he has had




Nailed it. Curious what Della's relationship is with the deputy DA she got to coach Perry up for the bar.
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I think last night's episode pushes Perry Mason into the #1 of best shows of 2020 for me. I thought last nights episode was almost a perfect hour of television. Man I hope this becomes a regular show. Gretchen Mol is still lovely.

I also thought the way Perry became a lawyer was handled exceptionally well as a last resort option
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Nailed it. Curious what Della's relationship is with the deputy DA she got to coach Perry up for the bar.
He was named as Hamilton Burger, which was the name of the DA who lost to Perry Mason on the original TV show every week.

Figured that had to be a relative of Lithgow playing his son at the cemetery, the voice and mannerisms were creepily alike. Sure enough, there was an actor with the last name Lithgow in the credits.

Loved the revival scene. The actor playing the guy who was "cured" was superb, and it is the sort of performance that should be recognized by those Best Supporting Actor awards that most of the time seem to really just be Best 2nd Leading Actor.
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Figured that had to be a relative of Lithgow playing his son at the cemetery, the voice and mannerisms were creepily alike. Sure enough, there was an actor with the last name Lithgow in the credits.

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Yeah that's his son. I sort of knew he was his real son right away no one can be that close to someone in both appearance mannerisms and especially voice.without being related.

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The whole business with Della and Perry and the creation of "Perry Mason, Lawyer" and the scenes that followed were just terrific. "Hamilton Berger" was a pleasant surprise.
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I was really excited for episode 5 to see how they handled the cliffhanger, but this zipped right along and seemed to take a very different path than I expected.

Really odd, and questionable (?), how they resolved Perry being a lawyer too.

one thing Iím struggling with on this show is a sense of timing. The drab tones itís filmed in arenít helping. I think the pilot was New Years, and then I thought I saw something referencing Jan 29 in this episode, then it was a few weeks until the bar. I think that puts us in mid-February?

Right now I think the church split and beat copís morality are shaping up to be interesting stories.
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Really odd, and questionable (?), how they resolved Perry being a lawyer too.
It did feel pretty rushed but having the series start out on New Years makes sense since typically the bar exam is only offered in February and July. Perry must be a real whiz kid to have crammed all that learning into a few weeks,
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Yeah, that whole final sequence seemed a bit rushed. I donít know anything about the Bar exam. Is it possible to cheat on it somehow? Maybe I wasnít paying close enough attention or maybe it was because the last 5 - 10 minutes of the episode was so rushed, but I kind of got the sense that the lawyer Della arranged to help Perry (Hamilton Berger?) was coaching him up on ways to pass the Bar in a not-so-honest way.
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Yeah, that whole final sequence seemed a bit rushed. I don’t know anything about the Bar exam. Is it possible to cheat on it somehow? Maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention or maybe it was because the last 5 - 10 minutes of the episode was so rushed, but I kind of got the sense that the lawyer Della arranged to help Perry (Hamilton Berger?) was coaching him up on ways to pass the Bar in a not-so-honest way.
Berger told Perry that the exam hadn't really ever changed, and he was coaching him on the questions that he knew would be on the exam.
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