The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
This was an okay episode, but felt weirdly nonchalant for a season opener. Not bad, but not great.Hearing it was held over from the first season of production makes sense.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
This isn't the first time eps have been shown out of order.
At the start of Season 1, the first five eps were shown in this order: 1, 3, 4, 2, 5.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
I just don't know what this show wants to be - a slapstick comedy or serious sci-fi drama. It's not particularly good as either. It's just background material to me at this point.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
I wish they'd go a bit more towards drama, a la TNG but yeah; this is full comedy.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
As a season opener, this kinda reminded me of the pilot episode: entertaining enough but not very memorable. But as the rest of season 1 was a step up from that first episode, hopefully the rest of the new season will likewise be a step up from this start.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
Yeah, I was expecting some kind of gag there... after all of that build-up he would just release a little squirt, or blast like a firehose, or someone would get peed on.
Then I remembered it’s on a commercial broadcast network and not cable, so they probably weren’t going to show anyone actually pee.
Then I remembered it’s on a commercial broadcast network and not cable, so they probably weren’t going to show anyone actually pee.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
I wonder how this would have been received if Seth had pitched this to Paramount as a Star Trek series, kept everything the same, except set it in an enexplored region of space like the Gamma or Delta Quadrant, and got to use Star Trek uniforms, phasers, warp drives, holodecks, transporters, and all of the other trademarkable stuff. Would a dramedy like this work within the Trek canon?
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
It seems the critics have eased up a little on it as well.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
I think it would be shredded by Star Trek fans if it was an actual Star Trek series. It's easier to accept the uneven tone and goofy characters when it can't tarnish Star Trek's legacy.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
Just watched this.
I agree that it was a little underwhelming for a 2nd season 1st ep. Sort of felt like it was finding its way again (I don't recall there being that many kids in last season?)
I still liked it.
Looks like E2 is going to be a little more action packed.
It's definitely more comedy than drama, but there were some serious topics last season, like Bortus's child. So it can go there.
And actually today, the medical officer's questioning of her parenting - I could totally relate, and that is a pretty serious topic.
That said, I too was waiting for more of a punchline with the actual Ja'loja.
Maybe this ep was just focusing on re-introducing/reminding us of some of the characters, and introducing a couple new ones.
That poem was Vogon-esque.
I agree that it was a little underwhelming for a 2nd season 1st ep. Sort of felt like it was finding its way again (I don't recall there being that many kids in last season?)
I still liked it.
Looks like E2 is going to be a little more action packed.
It's definitely more comedy than drama, but there were some serious topics last season, like Bortus's child. So it can go there.
And actually today, the medical officer's questioning of her parenting - I could totally relate, and that is a pretty serious topic.
That said, I too was waiting for more of a punchline with the actual Ja'loja.
Maybe this ep was just focusing on re-introducing/reminding us of some of the characters, and introducing a couple new ones.
That poem was Vogon-esque.
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
Trekkies aren't preferring the Orville because it's the best Star Trek series ever. They like it because it's close enough and enjoyable. Hell, if Voyager was on now, I'd probably watch it. And that's a series I didn't like and didn't watch past the first few seasons. But compared to Discovery? It's gold, Jerry! GOLD!
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
Did this muthahfuckah McFarlane really make a ceremony out of taking an annual piss?
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
Trekkies aren't preferring the Orville because it's the best Star Trek series ever. They like it because it's close enough and enjoyable. Hell, if Voyager was on now, I'd probably watch it. And that's a series I didn't like and didn't watch past the first few seasons. But compared to Discovery? It's gold, Jerry! GOLD!
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Re: The Orville (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Ja'loja" -- 12/30/18
In an interview McFarlane said they are trying to get to a MASH tone of drama and comedy.
Loved the drive-by and the new boyfriend defending the old boyfriend.
Loved the drive-by and the new boyfriend defending the old boyfriend.