Season four of "Better Call Saul" continues on Monday, August 13th at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT. On the second episode, "Breathe," Jimmy seeks new employment, while Gus navigates the fallout from Hector's collapse and Kim endeavors to support Jimmy in the wake of Chuck's death. This episode is written by Thomas Schnauz and directed by Michelle MacLaren.

It's a great monologue, and the scene keeps you guessing on what Jimmy's motivations are through the sales pitch and then when he rejects the job. What were the conversations like in terms of what's going through Jimmy's head in that scene?

Jimmy, he comes across when he first comes in as very enthusiastic and like he really wants to this job, but I think in reality Jimmy's feeling really horrible about himself. He blames himself for Chuck's death, and I think he hates himself in that moment. When these guys accept him and are like, "OK, you've got the job," he's very self-destructive. He can't take the positiveness of that. The fact that these guys say, "We want you," he doesn't feel deserving of it, so he reacts the way he does. So there's a lot of emotion underneath. Jimmy goes out that morning all positive — "I'm gonna get a job! This is great!" — and when it goes well, he feels so bad about himself. I really think, in this episode, I feel like we're starting to see him become Saul. When he makes that phone call to Mike, that was a very Saul thing to do. It's interesting to me to see where that evolution came from.