hitmanjules

WHY is AMC so cheap? Look at what other productions can do if profit is reinvested properly, like 'Game of Thrones.'

Coral

Yep, and if look at his shirt after his struggle with the walkers in the same spot he was shown to have been bitten at the end of the episode, you don't see any shirt tear or blood in that area.

leeta

This show seriously needs to get over itself and decide if it wants to be character-driven zombie show that MAKES SENSE within the context of that premise or a cash cow trying to hard to be artsy and randomly killing characters for shock value rather than to advance the story.

This episode was largely unwatchable because it was too DARK to see anything... the entire episode. It looked like they gave a high school kid a camera and no directions. Add that to the extremely annoying slow face shots. Just ugh...

I'm not going to say i will quit watching because I will soldier on with the show and hang in there to the bitter end...

watching as Rick falls for trash lady and they spend their days speaking in one word sentences,sculpting and playing with their pet walker. They get identical haircuts! Everything is wonderful. Michonne comes to visit! Rick is sooo hap-p-p.......

Luds

I'm almost at a loss for words. I really don't know why I keep watching this show. It's bad. The writing and storylines are absolute garbage. It must be because the comics are really good and I still care about the overall product, but just barely. Last two, or three seasons have been crap. How many times will they have a chance to kill Neagan and not take it? If he's not to die, then don't frikkin put the group in a position where they could take him out.

d2cheer

Nothing like pimping your kid out. As soon as I read he was upset about it I knew it was because now the money stops.

An I still think this is all a big swerve...but that would be giving them too much credit.

ben12

I think it's now become very clear that the comics are great mostly because of the fantastic storytelling of Charlie Adlard. If Kirkman is signing off on this television stuff, I just don't understand his brain.

DthRdrX

Interview out with Gimple this morning.

I might actually have to watch the next episode of Talking Dead, if Gimple shows up. They always discuss this stuff.

DthRdrX

AMC has a history of this. They were making cuts on Mad Men at the same time.

DthRdrX

jjcool

Exactly my thought as well. Any other comic readers out there thinking along those lines?

mcnabb

It felt like we were watching a sequel to Blair Witch Project.

Red Hood

Actually, I mentioned before that they could make Carl survive the bite and be basically the anti-body for whatever it is that turns people into zombies. They can have Carl getting sicker and sicker the next episode and then surviving.

jpcamb

that would be an awesome plot twist. It wouldn't be a "Glen under the dumpster fake out" and it could lead to the development of a cure, if they could get Eugene into a lab with Carl's blood it would be an amazing story arc.

Looks like Carl will die then...

Bandoman

How come no one has even mentioned the fucking helicopter we saw a couple of weeks ago? They have to realize that it didn't belong to the saviors.

mcnabb

I think that would be a cool idea, but TWD creators are well past anything like that these days. They have seemed to disregard any macro (big picture) issues for this show that would create some type of endgame (even if it didn't work out like getting Eugene to DC). Right now the only thing they focus on every season is who is the enemy of the group, and then they divide the group up among people who are war-hawks and doves. And then they all do a 180 the next season. TWD has turned into that comedian like Chevy Chase, Eddie Murphy, or even Jim Carrey, where once they became so big they stopped caring and became totally unfunny.

Abob Teff

That thought has entered my mind, particularly based on how quickly Mr. Riggs’ comments came out after the show aired. Chandler says they found out in June (I may need to double check that) while rehearsing for Episode 6.

It could all be a big shoot (wrestling term) just like removing Stephen Yuen from the credits. Mr. Riggs could be a part of it.

DthRdrX

I think that would be a clear cut, jump the shark moment for the show though.

Now, what if they meet up with a government group that actually has a cure? That helicopter being shown does bring up an interesting point. What if it is the same one Rick saw in Atlanta during S1.

hdnmickey

Or it's not a bite and was done by something that looks like a walker, but actually isn't a walker.

And how many people watch shows where they put the heroes, and even some of the main the villains, in mortal peril almost every episode but everybody knows none of them are going to die? Seems hypocritical to accept those and bitch when Rick and Negan always make it out when everybody should know by now that neither of them are going to die anytime soon.

gcribbs

I think it will turn out that Gimple bit Carl and in a flash back we find out he was the original source of the Zombie infections.

I can only hope that Gimple is fired soon although sadly this will not change the second half of the season which I assume has already been filmed.

More face shots incoming I guess.

smorbie

The show jumped the shark when Glenn died. I'm not saying I didn't fight that idea. I did. But, I've come to realize that's when it happened. Maybe it wasn't Glenn's death. maybe it was just that negan's arc has been so botched; I don't know. But, jump the shark, it def. has.

smorbie

I agree. Simple has overstayed his welcome. It's time for him to go. I hear they are still wanting cleanup workers in Fukishima.

DJariya

http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/12/the-walk...tainmentweekly

While the ratings are still good for cable, it's the lowest mid-season finale ratings in 6 years.

The show is 8 years old and ratings were bound to drop, but I have to wonder if AMC is concerned that the show has lost almost 10M viewers since season 7 episode 1 in just about 1 year. That's a pretty freaking huge collapse.

Bill Needle

I disagree. I think it jumped when Glenn didn't die. That was the first time it became undeniable that the show had fallen in love with itself to the point that they felt it was OK to openly mock their audience.

The show still has an underlying premise that can make for fascinating television. But they need to do some honest self-scouting of where things have been going, and decide what kind of show this is going to be. If they stay the current course that would be unfortunate, and likely fatal in the not too distant future.

Bill Needle

That is what happens when an audience starts to realize that a season and a half has gone by and (leaning back) not jack shit has happened. Plus they know that will likely continue for at least another half a season. Hope AMC (leaning back) had their shitting pants on when those ratings came out. And they better keep them on when when S8E9 airs. If they think people are going to flock back in droves just to see them ruthlessly milk Carl's fade out they are miscalculating by a fantastical amount, especially considering the audience knows that afterwards the show will coast for at least another six episodes.

mcnabb

I wanted to get opinions from comic book readers here. I don’t read comics but I was talking to a friend today who is a big comic book reader.

He is not as down on the show as I am (but admits that’s it’s not as great as it was). But he said the show has definitely gotten more to it’s roots of being more comic book-like. He also watches Z Nation but admits it’s a guilty pleasure show and that is sort of how he feels about TWD now. He thinks the show just isn’t made for the masses anymore (people like me) and will find a more niche audience in future seasons.