DthRdrX

The only way they could write themselves out of their established canon is if it wasn't a zombie that bit him ..... but I'll stop at that idea.

I was going to say his dizziness during the battle could be the beginning of the infection showing but he also just had something explode a few feet in front of him.

chowderhead

helicopter takes Carl to a secret research lab and they do a Z-Nation Murphy arc with him. It would totally destroy the show but that's about the only way Carl can make it through this.
ETA: They really should have just had Negan kill Carl or almost kill Carl if they wanted this shock. It's horribly done.

candyrocket786

I think that same thing happened to Ian Somerhalder on Lost when they were filming in Hawaii.

smorbie

Actually, I think it needed to be shot with a few fewer lights. I couldn't see anything that happened. I've been trying, in vain, all day to find some kind of recap or something

Bill Needle

Really? As you mentioned in your earlier posts both of those characters were pretty widely despised and I don't remember anyone (fans) lamenting their loss. I totally buy that there was a lot going on behind the scenes that may have driven the sequence of events in the show, but I thought the audience reaction was generally one of relief. I guess I just don't remember it the way you do.

sracer

These are the same writers faked Glenn's death. I'm thinking they'll do it again with Carl. Dream sequence. human bite. non-infected bite. Maybe Carl runs away before he dies and disappears.... only to re-appear during the season finale (or some future season) unharmed.

smorbie

As I said, I couldn't see it, but I'm guessing there was a confrontation between Rick and Negan and Rick wussed out AGAIN.

I want the old Rick back, too. That man was a force to be reckoned with.

And I should have known Carl's stupid stunt with the walker's souls would get him killed. I'm sad, but he really brought that on himself. He's too smart for such stupidity.

Bill Needle

When Simon shot the gun near Maggie's car we assumed he meant to shoot someone, but then quite literally no one could see any evidence of it because everyone in the car was invisible. So we figured it was just a scare tactic from Simon to intimidate Maggie. When Maggie said something about wanting the casket for Neil, first we laughed because that was the first sign that someone had actually been murdered after all. Then we laughed because, "Who the hell is Neil?"

smorbie

Welcome to the club. Occasionally, I would get a glimpse of someone, but mostly, it was like watching thick maple syrup.

smorbie

People have been complaining that not enough "real" characters were getting killed. This was Gimple's "screw you" to the fans.

smorbie

He's going to spare him because Kirkman loves Negan, and Gimple loves JSM. The reason given will be the quote from the koran and because that's what Carl would have wanted him to do.

What a waste of a character.

Bill Needle

Now let me say something good about the finale:

I like where they have taken Dwight. That was another plot development they could have drug on forever, but they did not. At this point of the show, for me Dwight is probably the most interesting character.

smorbie

I don't blame him. They jerked the kid around. He took a year away from college and bought a house to live where they shoot, and this is how they treat him.

GIMPLE NEEDS TO GO

Jason

Carl could have bit Negan, who kills him and then realizes that Carl was actively infected.

But that would have been cool.

jwb0323

I haven't read them, but I know enough about the comics that this could actually be possible, no?

jwb0323

Question, the crazy trash lady wrote the letter A on the dumpster or container that Rick was being held in. Does this go back to the letter carved in the trees or was that mystery already solved?

rw2516

Carl could become a zombie but keeps his smarts. He organizes the zombies into an army and becomes their leader. Teaches them to use weapons. Like Caesar in the Planet of the Apes movies.
Carl to Rick, "Leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. We don't want to have to kill you."

smorbie

The A's in the trees were carved in GA and it was Terminus. I think the wolves also carved something in the trees, but if you blinked, you missed them.

and Rw2516... that would be hilarious. And a very interesting situation, actually. You should go write for them.

mcnabb

Honestly the show feels like an 80’s Horror B movie. Now many will argue that point and say it’s a zombie show! I’m not a fan of this genre but loved the show because it really delved into the characters and it wasn’t a B Movie, but now this is something that would be interesting if I saw it on Mystery Science Theater and the 3 characters ripping on it.

And Tara has sort of grown on me since they turned her into the Sarah Silverman comedian of the apocalypse.

Neitzl

I instantly thought of Sinead O'Connor and her album cover

JTH182

Would they really openly spoil episodes that won't air until February? I find these interviews a little suspect. I'm thinking it's just a misdirection and Carl won't end up dying. I mean they're literally saying "Carl is dead" in interviews. When has that ever happened on this show?

IDrinkMolson

Now that you mention it, yes, yes it could.

Carl did look more pasty (and clammy) than normal though.
But, until he turns or dies, I'll believe it when I see it.

Here is the Carl & Siddiq fight that it probably happened at. Around 1:30

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Abob Teff

I wish I hadn’t watched that clip Molson. I was willing to just accept it and move on, but that clip shows it is Glenn-level bullshit. Yes, a few points where it could have happened ... and a few moments where you could retcon Carl’s reaction to tip it off, but overall? No. No f#@king way that is how he reacts if he has just been bitten.

I was really trying to like most of the episode, there was some good and a few flashes of the TWD of old. But this is pushing me down the wrong path. Eight episodes called “All Out War” and the only (potentially) meaningful death is from somebody f#@king up and scraping themselves against a walker’s teeth. No. Bullshit Gimple.

Maggie comes back and wants to make a point by executing a prisoner, but it isn’t Long-hair McAssHat who should have been executed after Maggie says “no tolerance” and moments later he tries to grab a gun? Bullshit Gimple.

Rick. ‘Nuff said. Bullshit Gimple.

Enid knows they need to take an offering to Oceanside, but then accidentally shoots Granny Oceanside? Bullshit Gimple. The Oceansiders don’t kill Enid and Aaron on the spot? Bullshit Gimple.

Abob Teff

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a8102821.html

Abob Teff

Seriously, that is his Twitter handle?