The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
11-14-17, 07:29 PM
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The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14
THE FLASH
"When Harry Met Harry... " - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, DLV) (HDTV)
ONE HARRY, TWO HARRYS, THREE HARRYS, FOUR - When collectors of Native American artifacts are attacked by a meta named Mina Chayton (guest star Chelsea Kurtz) who can bring inanimate objects to life, Barry (Grant Gustin) turns to a surprising ally for help. Determined to crack the identity of The Thinker, Harry (Tom Cavanagh) enlists Cisco's (Carlos Valdes) help to summon the ultimate think tank: "The Council of Wells'," a roundtable of the brightest Harrison Wells' from various Earths. Brent Crowell directed the episode written by Jonathan Butler & Gabriel Garza (#406). Original airdate 11/14/2017.
THE FLASH
"When Harry Met Harry... " - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, DLV) (HDTV)
ONE HARRY, TWO HARRYS, THREE HARRYS, FOUR - When collectors of Native American artifacts are attacked by a meta named Mina Chayton (guest star Chelsea Kurtz) who can bring inanimate objects to life, Barry (Grant Gustin) turns to a surprising ally for help. Determined to crack the identity of The Thinker, Harry (Tom Cavanagh) enlists Cisco's (Carlos Valdes) help to summon the ultimate think tank: "The Council of Wells'," a roundtable of the brightest Harrison Wells' from various Earths. Brent Crowell directed the episode written by Jonathan Butler & Gabriel Garza (#406). Original airdate 11/14/2017.
11-15-17, 01:04 AM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
Damn, the council of Wells stuff in this episode was awful. That was cringeworthy.
I didn’t mind The Flash’s adventures with Elongated Man against Chayton though. It had a few cool moments. I did
at his costume.
Probably my least favorite Flash episode in a few seasons.
I didn’t mind The Flash’s adventures with Elongated Man against Chayton though. It had a few cool moments. I did
at his costume. Probably my least favorite Flash episode in a few seasons.
11-15-17, 10:03 AM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
Wow.... the WB must really want us to like Ezra Miller's Flash.
11-15-17, 02:36 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
It felt like the various Wells' scenes were all ad-libbed as they were being filmed. I thought going in it would be a lot of fun but those characters were insanely bad for network television. I've seen garbage like that on homemade YouTube videos but not on television.
Dibny's "costume" hopefully gets upgraded to his real costume when he graduates from the Flash's training.
Dibny's "costume" hopefully gets upgraded to his real costume when he graduates from the Flash's training.
11-15-17, 03:31 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
I’m starting to grow tired of all these shows.
11-15-17, 03:36 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
Arrow has always been my favorite aside from the terrible season with Darhk. But I think it's reached the point where they should be looking at concluding it, even though I know they'll keep it going for as long as they can like they have with Supernatural. Like dex14 though, I'm starting to grow tired of Supergirl/Arrow/Flash/LoT.
11-15-17, 04:26 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
The council of Wells was Cavanaugh's idea, according to him. I didn't hate it, but after seeing it done right with Rick and Morty, this paled in comparison.
11-15-17, 06:05 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
I love Ralph so much in this show. Brings such a better dynamic than Wally did. Council of Wells stuff didn't bother me.
11-15-17, 07:32 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
It felt like the various Wells' scenes were all ad-libbed as they were being filmed. I thought going in it would be a lot of fun but those characters were insanely bad for network television. I've seen garbage like that on homemade YouTube videos but not on television.
Dibny's "costume" hopefully gets upgraded to his real costume when he graduates from the Flash's training.
Dibny's "costume" hopefully gets upgraded to his real costume when he graduates from the Flash's training.
11-15-17, 10:21 PM
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Arrow has always been my favorite aside from the terrible season with Darhk. But I think it's reached the point where they should be looking at concluding it, even though I know they'll keep it going for as long as they can like they have with Supernatural. Like dex14 though, I'm starting to grow tired of Supergirl/Arrow/Flash/LoT.
Not sure why shows like the flash and arrow completely sputter after the second season. Is it writing or content?
11-15-17, 11:00 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
Trying to stretch out the story over 22 episodes hurts them. Eventually you just run out of good ideas. That's what hurt both the Zoom and Savitar story lines.
11-15-17, 11:06 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
That's why they've gone lighter this year and appear to be making it more villain of the week than some long and drawn out serialized plot.
11-16-17, 05:35 AM
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And that would be why my interest is dwindling.
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11-16-17, 01:30 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
The Wells stuff was funny. But hey, whatever.
11-16-17, 01:33 PM
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I'm enjoying this season. This is basically the Smallville formula. Monster of the week for the first 35 minutes and over-arching plot the last 7. Writing off Wally was a solid choice and Ralph seems like a good addition to the cast (for however long he lasts). The whole Killer Frost thing was done really poorly but other than that I still really enjoy the thing.
Arrow on the other hand is spinning its wheels with redundant plot devices that a freshman at USC could write. They should start writing towards a season 7 series finale.
Arrow on the other hand is spinning its wheels with redundant plot devices that a freshman at USC could write. They should start writing towards a season 7 series finale.
11-17-17, 08:53 AM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
Same here. To make matters worse, the small amount of that they have included with The Thinker has been terrible up to this point.
Glad I wasn't the only the only one that couldn't wait for the multiple Harry thing to go away. I was fearful enough fans might like it and they would make a thing in future episodes.
Glad I wasn't the only the only one that couldn't wait for the multiple Harry thing to go away. I was fearful enough fans might like it and they would make a thing in future episodes.
11-17-17, 12:52 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
I'm enjoying this season. This is basically the Smallville formula. Monster of the week for the first 35 minutes and over-arching plot the last 7. Writing off Wally was a solid choice and Ralph seems like a good addition to the cast (for however long he lasts). The whole Killer Frost thing was done really poorly but other than that I still really enjoy the thing.
Arrow on the other hand is spinning its wheels with redundant plot devices that a freshman at USC could write. They should start writing towards a season 7 series finale.
Arrow on the other hand is spinning its wheels with redundant plot devices that a freshman at USC could write. They should start writing towards a season 7 series finale.
11-17-17, 12:52 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
This has been my take not just on the DC shows but the Netflix ones as well. 8 -10 episodes would do wonders with these shows as far as tighter stories where the fill in would be minimal and you wouldn't have to create stories with side characters. I wish I could watch a Daredevil show without the Foggy whinning and Karen being an investigative reporter.
11-17-17, 12:58 PM
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This has been my take not just on the DC shows but the Netflix ones as well. 8 -10 episodes would do wonders with these shows as far as tighter stories where the fill in would be minimal and you wouldn't have to create stories with side characters. I wish I could watch a Daredevil show without the Foggy whinning and Karen being an investigative reporter.
11-17-17, 01:16 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
The best thing they could probably do with the DC Berlantini shows is to treat them all as cross-overs. Each of the main characters wouldn't have to be in each episode, or at least get equal screen time, but they wouldn't have to work as hard to create unique story lines for each series. But the CW would never go for it because theylove getting 4 hours a week despite each show actually struggling quality wise.
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11-17-17, 02:15 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
I enjoyed this mainly for Ralph. Him and Barry interacting has been fun and so has seeing him become a hero. Seeing how much fun Ralph is shows how bad they mishandled Wally. I didn't hate the council of Well's, but didn't like it either.
11-17-17, 03:04 PM
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Re: The Flash (S4E06) -- "When Harry Met Harry…" -- 11/14/17
Overall, another fun episode. I'm not feeling Devoe though. The episodes are too self contained for me to care about an overall villain. He's just not involved enough.
Alright, on paper neither Ralph Dibney or Elongated Man should not work. They are both ridiculous characters, but somehow the writers and actor have managed to pull of the impossible. He is super entertaining.
Also, Hartley Sawyer has a face for Joker. Dump that horrid ass Leto and recast this guy.
Councel of Wells was fine. Tom Cavanagh was clearly doing his best Matthew mcconaughey impression for the long haired Wells.
Alright, on paper neither Ralph Dibney or Elongated Man should not work. They are both ridiculous characters, but somehow the writers and actor have managed to pull of the impossible. He is super entertaining.
Also, Hartley Sawyer has a face for Joker. Dump that horrid ass Leto and recast this guy.
Councel of Wells was fine. Tom Cavanagh was clearly doing his best Matthew mcconaughey impression for the long haired Wells.