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Old 09-27-17, 02:24 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

(Some crazy speculation).

Here's an outsider's speculation on what the purpose of All Access might be.

https://www.tvgrimreaper.com/2017/09...leverage/2983/


The writer attempts to argue that CBS All Access has more to do with "leverage" when it comes to negotiating retransmission fees with cable/satellite providers.

It reads almost like a lousy business case written by an MBA student.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by morriscroy
If there is no legal regulation which forces mandatory public disclosure to be this precise in 10K (or 10Q) reports filed with the SEC, then most likely CBS won't say anything about it that is meaningful.

The only way we'll know for sure, is voluntary disclosure by CBS and/or Les Moonves mentions anything about it on-the-record.
That's why I tend to be skeptical when CBS releases such statements like All Access had the biggest influx of new subscribers this weekend. Sure this might be true in the short term, but it doesn't take into account how many people might have cancelled right after watching the 2nd episode.

I also tend to wonder how many people are pirating it? Probably far more than who signed up for All Access.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by DJariya
I don't know if you're aware, but the show was co-created by Bryan Fuller, who was a writer on Star Trek Voyager. Before Fuller left day to day production, he wrote the scripts for the 1st 2 episodes.

Another member of the writing staff Kirsten Beyer has written several Star Trek novels.

Nick Meyer, one of the Producers and Writers, directed Star Trek II and VI

Alex Kurtzman, co-creator and Producer, produced the recent reboots with Pine and Quinto.

They didn't pull recent college grads off the street. They got some people on this with some Star Trek credibility.

You can't please everyone, especially with a brand name that has 50+ years of Canon.
They have a great set of Star Trek minds yet they decide to go back to TOS timeline again, and do Klingons versus Federation. Again.

This would have been the perfect time for Star Trek: The Third Generation. On the Enterprise. No continuity no repetition, new advanced technology and a virtually blank state. I have to believe that this brain trust was forced into this time period.

On the first episode, I disliked the first officer a LOT. Sarek appearing is eye rolling. The plot was trite and tired. It looked beautiful. The Klingons came across awfully bad in my opinion. Klingon sounds stupid. Made up languages have come a long way. Not sure I care to see the rest. I skipped the last series anyway.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

I watched the first 2 .... some decent parts, but I really do not care for many of the characters, the Klingons were bad ... it was like watching a Klingon Mass the whole time, not much personality there. Plot wise, it was fine .. but it really had a been there/done that feel. Visually, it looked good for sure.

I'll watch the next few ... and probably the whole season .. because I generally really like Trek, am glad I stuck through some bad season 1/2 Next Generation episodes and I am a sucker for TV sci-fi
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Ok, I'll admit I'm a terrible Trek fan. I've watched the original several times over and I've watched the movies but I just couldn't watch the other shows on a consistent basis. At least not enough to keep up with the story lines.
I watched the 2 episodes here and it doesn't give me the feel of Star Trek. The battle scene was decently done, I'll give them that. The characters leave a lot to be desired. I'll watch the 3rd episode and take it week by week. They same as I said for the others but like I said they were dropped as they were mutations of the original.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Saw the episodes and they were entertaining enough. Some of the effects looked great but when we first see the Enterprise (whatever version it is) - it looks odd, because it's completely CG. At least the previous ones spanning however many decades were always a model or cg enhanced model that carried some actual weight -- it felt there. This one did not, but the Klingon armada was really cool. These first episodes obviously played like an appetizer and Jason Isaacs and crew will be the main course.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Discovery's version of the Ferengi.
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The other episodes won't be on TV?
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by Ranger
The other episodes won't be on TV?
Have you read any of this topic?
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by Ranger
The other episodes won't be on TV?
I'm like a weed...
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Sigh, I'll get the All Access free trial.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Wonder how soon it becomes the most pirated show.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by morriscroy
Wonder how soon it becomes the most pirated show.
Game of Thrones says hello.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Nah, this show won't even come close to GoT in piracy. Come in 2nd tho.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

"you're making this complicated" is basically the feeling here. Yes, redemption story arc. I give no shits about. The whole secrecy of Discovery is just annoying
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by Eric F
Nah, this show won't even come close to GoT in piracy. Come in 2nd tho.
Westworld is pretty popular too, and The Walking Dead was already a strong 2nd. I'd give this fourth if it weren't a Netflix show overseas.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

I enjoyed this episode (episode 3) much more than the first 2. It still doesn't feel like Star Trek but it was good Science Fiction. Maybe there's some hope for this yet..
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Man is Gene rolling over in his grave. It's like anti trek...
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Holographic transmissions? That was a new tech starfleet tried during DS9, shouldn't be happening here.
Seems like this is jjverse tv. An actual window on the bridge instead of a view screen, klingons look more like jj ones
don't like the guy playing Sarek. Speaking of Sarek he answers a holocall immediately with no delay?
They said phase cannons initially then phasers later.

I did like that their pistols had the three lenses on the end like the pistols in the cage
the red alert sound is right, I heard sick bay sounds from TOS
they had some kind of armor when they raided the klingon ship. It's about time
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by mikehunt
don't like the guy playing Sarek. Speaking of Sarek he answers a holocall immediately with no delay?
To be fair, this seems to happen with pretty much every scifi show. Whenever someone places a call, the person is right there ready to talk. I'd like there to be a episode where someone makes a call and has to wait around 10-15 minutes before whoever they are calling can get to the spacephone.
Can't ding Discovery on this one.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Originally Posted by hdtv00
Man is Gene rolling over in his grave. It's like anti trek...
Let me introduce you to a little show called, Deep Space Nine...

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Blah blah blah DS9 , yea it was darker in tone to the other shows of the time and from time to time. But please give me a break. 3 episodes in and this show is nothing but dark. Hell this last episode they pretty much just said hell with Starfleet rules, lets run around be loose cannons. If the one theory going around isn't true then this show isn't even close to trek in any way what so ever.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Loved the 3rd episode. The Discovery seems like a neat ship, I enjoyed the mystery and the moral ambiguity of what they were doing. And Michael got to say “shit” so I guess the paywall is doing its job

Really curious to see where this goes. Being on a warship is a nice change of pace.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (CBS All-Access) -- Season 1 Thread -- Premieres 9/24/17

Based on the ship's NCC number -

Spoiler:
I read an article that speculates Discovery is actually the beginning of Section 31.


If so, this could get real interesting.
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Yea Orbi that's the ONLY thing that makes any kind of sense as far as to them not just pissing all over everything Trek is and stands for...


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