The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/17
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
In that episode Wesley jumped into a flowerbed which was marked do not step in by a white fence. All crime on the planet held a death sentence. The only similarity would be that you could die for minor reasons. The episode was called Justice.
I'm currently rewatching TNG.
I'm currently rewatching TNG.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
I loved them trashing American Idol now that it's being revived on a different network.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
This sucked. Mostly because it was such a blatant and lazy rip-off of Black Mirror, and also because it wasn't done remotely as well.
Also, curious to know how the Orville ended up staffed by so many judgmental douchebags. It seems to be a major theme of the show...shitting on every culture they encounter based on 10 minutes of interaction.
Also, curious to know how the Orville ended up staffed by so many judgmental douchebags. It seems to be a major theme of the show...shitting on every culture they encounter based on 10 minutes of interaction.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
I liked it. I thought it was interesting to NOT start the episode on the Orville. I'm sure there are examples in the Trek universe of that but it sort of made it feel like a different show (in a good way).
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
But just like the last one, I felt all their joke making on the mission really destroys any chance of the plot being taken seriously. They need to find a good mix of realistically fitting on the mission in while making jokes to each other.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
The whole point system in this episode as well as Black Mirror has some flaws in the "point system". In the Orville system, they only seemed to care about the down votes and not the upvotes. Also the guy was still only 4 points away from hitting the 10 million. Couldn't he easily have recieved four more within hours and be right back where he was? He yelled at and insulted the security in the room right after he was freed. He could have gotten two right there.
The other thing with both the shows. Famous people would not last long. Rush Limbaugh would quickly get 10 million down votes by non Republicans. Same with people on "reality" tv shows, etc.
The other thing with both the shows. Famous people would not last long. Rush Limbaugh would quickly get 10 million down votes by non Republicans. Same with people on "reality" tv shows, etc.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
This definitely feels like TOS. The way the system was portrayed might not stand up to a lot of scrutiny but it’s still a great story that needed to be told.
I might have made John’s crime a little less conspicuous, something a little less flamboyant might have helped sell it a little better.
But still it really felt like a TOS episode done with TNG production. Last week’s episode of Discovery was the first episode that truly felt like Trek but Orville continues to hit it every time.
Guess i should look up this Black Mirror stuff...
I might have made John’s crime a little less conspicuous, something a little less flamboyant might have helped sell it a little better.
But still it really felt like a TOS episode done with TNG production. Last week’s episode of Discovery was the first episode that truly felt like Trek but Orville continues to hit it every time.
Guess i should look up this Black Mirror stuff...
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
They literally said in the episode that because of how vast the universe is, that some civilizations mirrored each other (paraphrased). The definition of an infinite universe.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
Dude it’s still all within one universe. This has jack shit to do with multiverse theory.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
How can someone on the crew not be familiar with the concept of money even if their society doesn't use it?
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
As someone that hasn't seen Black Mirror, the episode was interesting. I bet the actress that had the featured guest role will be a lead on some CW show sooner or later.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
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The whole point system in this episode as well as Black Mirror has some flaws in the "point system". In the Orville system, they only seemed to care about the down votes and not the upvotes. Also the guy was still only 4 points away from hitting the 10 million. Couldn't he easily have recieved four more within hours and be right back where he was? He yelled at and insulted the security in the room right after he was freed. He could have gotten two right there.
The other thing with both the shows. Famous people would not last long. Rush Limbaugh would quickly get 10 million down votes by non Republicans. Same with people on "reality" tv shows, etc.
The other thing with both the shows. Famous people would not last long. Rush Limbaugh would quickly get 10 million down votes by non Republicans. Same with people on "reality" tv shows, etc.
Maybe if John had been in the negative in aggregate points, then we would've seen the score slow down, stop, and reverse.
It was also unclear how many times a single person could downvote you, it seemed like only once per person. Could you later change your vote? For Black Mirror, the points seemed to be awarded per interaction.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
I just watched the Black Mirror episode "Nosedive" to compare and, although the basic concepts depicted are similar, I think the perspectives are very different.
The Orville episode is focused on the "Tyranny of the Masses" aspect of social media ("Majority Rule" is such a perfect title for the episode) and the "lynch mob"-ish way something going viral can ruining a person's life literally overnight. But the Black Mirror episode was focused more on the "class structure" such a society would create and just how shallow and superficial it would be.
Both episodes are good with thoughtful social commentary. My only nitpicks for each show...
The Orville episode is focused on the "Tyranny of the Masses" aspect of social media ("Majority Rule" is such a perfect title for the episode) and the "lynch mob"-ish way something going viral can ruining a person's life literally overnight. But the Black Mirror episode was focused more on the "class structure" such a society would create and just how shallow and superficial it would be.
Both episodes are good with thoughtful social commentary. My only nitpicks for each show...
Spoiler:
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
They did this in Star Trek as well. In Star Trek IV the crew seemed unfamiliar with 'money", yet in Star Trek VI, Scotty said "Suits me fine. I just bought a bought". Even if they are not familiar with physical money (as our own society won't in another decade or two at best), they would need to have some system to aquire goods and services. Even in Star Trek there were some mebers of Earth better off than others so it wasn't like everyone was supplied the same amount of resources and assets regardless of what job they had.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
Even if it's just one universe, it's infinite, which means there are infinite worlds. The theory is that eventually there will be worlds that resemble each other. I don't see what the issue is here.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
Any show that makes you think these days, and has a laugh along the way, is a good thing imho.
This was def a black mirror ep rip off, bit I didn't care, it was still a good ep.
This was def a black mirror ep rip off, bit I didn't care, it was still a good ep.
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
I had never given Black Mirror a look but was aware of the show. All the talk in here has me ready to check it out so maybe it's a good thing McFarlane ripped it off?
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
I just watched the Black Mirror episode "Nosedive" to compare and, although the basic concepts depicted are similar, I think the perspectives are very different.
The Orville episode is focused on the "Tyranny of the Masses" aspect of social media ("Majority Rule" is such a perfect title for the episode) and the "lynch mob"-ish way something going viral can ruining a person's life literally overnight. But the Black Mirror episode was focused more on the "class structure" such a society would create and just how shallow and superficial it would be.
Both episodes are good with thoughtful social commentary. My only nitpicks for each show...
The Orville episode is focused on the "Tyranny of the Masses" aspect of social media ("Majority Rule" is such a perfect title for the episode) and the "lynch mob"-ish way something going viral can ruining a person's life literally overnight. But the Black Mirror episode was focused more on the "class structure" such a society would create and just how shallow and superficial it would be.
Both episodes are good with thoughtful social commentary. My only nitpicks for each show...
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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Re: The Orville (FOX) -- Season 1 Thread -- S: MacFarlane, Palicki -- Premieres 9/10/
Overall I did enjoy the episode. Although having LaMarr acting like 2nd grader instead of a union officer was unfunny crappy writing - even for this show. There was plenty of other things he could have done more innocently that was unknowingly against the law/taboo in that culture.