Super X

I came late to that AMA. I do think it's interesting that Frost was given a chance to have input on scenes that Lynch later wrote, but Lynch hasn't read Frost's books. I've read Secret History and was hoping that the third season would provide more insight into apparent discrepancies in the book, but maybe we'll be getting some in The Final Dossier. I do think it's interesting to be able to see versions of Twin Peaks that more heavily reflect the vision of one of the creators over the other to get an idea of how each of them independently view the series, characters, and situations and which areas each prefers to emphasize.

smokedragon

You want answers? Fuck you, that's your answer!

Finally able to watch the two final, hopefully final, because I don't think I could endure more of this fuckduckery, episodes of Twin Peaks, and, after watching 17, I was like, oh,oh-ho, here we go, getting somewhere! Rubbed my hands with maniacal glee as 18 began, then, despair set in, as well as anger. Maybe I'll get over it, I mean I was flummoxed by the ending of The Soprano's, was confused, upset, until I understood it, and until I understand the ending of Twin Peaks, I will always be pissed off.

I get it, hey, it's David Lynch, what did you expect? Fucker's weird, an artist, his mind is unfathomable to you little people, just worship the God of strangeness, don't ask questions. Let it flow over you, like a broken sewer pipe, wallow in all that shit, kiss his magical, cryptic ass.

Am I the only one noticing how some of the acting was bad? I mean direct to VHS bad. Lucy, and Andy's interactions were terrible, it got worse when the son showed up. How come some directors get away with lousy directing? Did any of you see Dune? Christ, you can't blame that all on the producers. And Fire, Walk With Me is a bad movie. I tried watching it again before the new series began, and still thought it was shit. David Bowie was horrible in the movie. I don't know why Rock stars are cast in movies. I was watching Burden Of Dreams on TCM which is about the making of Werner Herzog's Fitzcarraldo, and apparently Mick Jagger was to co-star in it. They showed some of the footage, and thank fuck it didn't happen.

I'll let you into a little secret, Lynch told Showtime it was going to be 18 episodes, but Mark Frost read the scripts and told David that there was only enough for 16 and a half. Don't you worry, none, my boy, I'll be dabblin' in a little bit of my classic fuckduckery. See, I'll have these long, uncomfortable silences where everyone just looks at each other, especially after saying something profound, or funny, or cringe inducing and then we'll showcase some bands I like, or bands that pay me to like, and then there'll be drivin', hours, and hours of footage, just people drivin' down a desolate highway, and the occupants will rarely talk, just stare, in fact, most of the last episode will be of Dale drivin', and drivin', and drivin', oh, and he'll fuck Diane who was raped by his doppelganger because I'm sure she'll be comfortable with that, making love with the man who's the spitting image of the monster who assaulted her. Oh, I just had a thought, how about I do one episode of what the inside of my mind looks like? Think they'll go for that? It's a big mushroom cloud with barren landscapes, and creepy hobo's who can't find a fucking match anywhere, bizarre beings, eggs hatching, insectoid things, and whatever else I can conjure up. I'll have everything padded, the mooks'll just think, hey, that's David Lynch! Genius!

Audrey, what was the point of that? Was all that in her head? Were we privy to her damaged mind? Is she in an insane asylum? It was a white room, so it could be. If you ever want me to abandon a series, especially in a weird, supernatural series, have one of the antagonists be held in an insane asylum, and have them told it's all in their mind. I'm looking at you, Buffy.

Sorry, this is long, but, fuck I'm upset. I was somewhat ambivalent about the series up to 17, but that last one, well, that was a kick to the groin.

dex14

Geez... another actor on Twin Peaks passed away:

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/r...brent-briscoe/

starseed1981

Did anyone goto the pop up they ran in LA this week? A friend of mine went earlier in the week and the actress that played Candie was serving coffee.

Jackskeleton

i went earlier this week. kinda let down. the merch was more expensive than you would find on the showtime webstore, the cherry pies were sold out and the donuts, from donut friend were also gone. great for a quick picture, but otherwise meh.

starseed1981

The Final Dossier came out a couple of days ago.

Luds

Looks like this will make the Xmas wishlist.

Luds

Quick note about The Final Dossier whic I've finally read.

I think it's a great conclusion as it contains elements that people would have liked to see in the 3rd season, mainly the faiths of multiple characters that weren't in the season and some that were.

dex14

For anyone who is a fan of Johnny Jewel / Chromatics, like I am. This up on Spotify, etc. now.

dex14

I Know Catherine, The Log Lady

An authorized feature documentary about CATHERINE COULSON, best known as the LOG LADY in DAVID LYNCH & MARK FROST's TWIN PEAKS.


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Shannon Nutt

If anyone hasn't seen Season 3, Showtime is running a marathon this Saturday, June 2nd. Get up early and/or set your DVRs, as the fun begins at 4:35 AM.

Supermallet

I think you’re asking the wrong questions to be honest. This is more Lost Highway than Mulholland Drive.

will travel

Walter Olkewicz of TWIN PEAKS fame has passed away. Rest In Peace!

https://deadline.com/2021/04/walter-...re-1234729904/

slybone

RIP

I actually knew him best as Coach in the Judd Nelson movie “Making the Grade” and his numerous TV appearances in the 70s and 80s. Didn’t even know he was still acting.

MysterioMan007

The fact that the first shot of the series wasn't Cooper appearing in the woods from the Black Lodge disoriented will always anger me. He should've showed up and been found by someone (maybe Truman) and then work their way to find out his whereabouts all this time. But instead, we got all this randomness thrown onto the screen with no direction and no resolution. As a huge fan of the original series, I have never been so let down by a revival in my life, although Veronica Mars was pretty anger-inducing as well.

ben12

Sorry you're not a David Lynch fan, but I thought it was perfect.

Gizmo

I still wish Dale woke up after a few episodes and we didn’t get 17 episodes of Dougie.

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windom

Guess I'm not a David Lynch fan either.

Gizmo

Neither am I, apparently. This was a gigantic mess that should be trimmed to 8-10 episodes.

Lynch fans are some of the craziest. Are they still quoting the whole “watching a movie on your phone” nonsense from Lynch? The guy who barely does anything outside or Twin Peak. It’s been what, almost 2 decades since his last movie?

MysterioMan007

Sorry you're not a fan of Twin Peaks, but I felt it was far from perfect.

Josh-da-man

The problem wasn't that it was too long, it was too meandering. It felt like a twelve-hour "Dougie" movie with a bunch of webisodes cut into it.

What really made Twin Peaks work was that it was a sort of piss-take on police procedurals and nighttime soap operas shot through with David Lynch strangeness.

Twin Peaks The Return was too much Lynch weirdness and not enough procedural or soap opera. It spent so much time focusing on that Dougie shit that there wasn't really any time to have the Twin Peaks townsfolk do anything meaningful. Most of them, Audrey in particular, seem to have been included as afterthoughts.

Also didn't help that they lost so many actors... I think that Don Davis' absence was dealt with well, but then, the stock footage of Frank Silva in bubbles didn't work at all. And, since Ontkean didn't want to be involved, they should have just made Hawk the sheriff instead of bringing in another new character. And the David Bowie teakettle? Egads...

Most of this was Inland Empire David Lynch and not 1990 David Lynch. And, ironically, the parts that felt the most like proper Twin Peaks was the stuff with the FBI, which actually starred Lynch himself.

ben12

Difference is I actually liked ALL of Twin Peaks!

MysterioMan007

And I like David Lynch. And I enjoyed The Return, to a certain extent. But, because I'm a fan of Lynch, that doesn't mean I have to blindly like whatever he shovels into our mouths. By itself, I enjoyed The Return, but as a continuation of the original show, not so much.

ben12

This was never going to be a continuation of the old show. Anyone who expected that was fooling themselves.

Matto1020

Then why call it "Twin Peaks?" This series definitely felt like a huge bait and switch.

It was like Lynch was too afraid to either make a full on continuation (which everyone wanted) or a complete reboot, and instead tried to do both. If they had set this series up as a complete reboot but just set in the town of Twin Peaks, with new characters and new situations, I think it would have been better received. People would have known what they were getting into. But the marketing told a completely different story... images of Cooper and Laura Palmer with the tagline, "It is happening again." Teasing the return of all these characters people loved, only to be given them in tiny, and very weird doses.