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DWilson 07-26-17 08:05 PM

Re: Worst sitcoms of all time
 

Originally Posted by Bill Needle (Post 13122167)
Curious how someone can come up their own list like this unless they are a paid critic and it is part of their job. Who takes the time to watch scores of terrible shows to the point that they feel qualified to rank them relative to each other? If a show is so bad it can make such a list, who sticks around watching it for more than a handful of minutes? It's like spending your free time ranking turds by their smell.

I get the feeling a lot of these lists are made by people who didn't actually watch any of them, or at least most of them. By the same token, it would explain how you get a list that's more contemporary and has so little depth to it.

The Questyen 07-26-17 09:11 PM

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Out of shows I've actually watched more than an episode of The Big Bang Theory is by far the worst show I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever hated any type of entertainment more.

Superman07 07-26-17 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 13121937)
After watching 5 minutes of it before leaving the room, my vote goes to Downward Dog. Beyond horrible.

Was that the Amazon pilot crop a few years back? Or am I mixing up my yoga named shows?

I think the list is quite odd. To be a sitcom "of all time" I'd think it would need to be a discussion of long running shows, not a mixture of hardly aired and lasted a few seasons.

Not to say it wasn't bad - I couldn't tell you plot since I'd turn it off after a few minutes - but Mama's Family stood out became awe its the only thing on that list that lasted.

Jay G. 07-26-17 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 13122160)
Wikipedia has a list of shows that only lasted one episode. One of them is Co-ed Fever, starring Heather Thomas. It sounds dreadful.

After reading the article, I want to see Turn-On, the show that was canceled part way through the broadcast of the first episode.

The stories about that sound incredible, and the people involved still seem proud of the show.

Time Conway recollecting about the show:

Some quick clips of episode 2:

Show creator George Schlatter reminiscing about the show:

Jay G. 07-26-17 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Superman07 (Post 13122260)
I think the list is quite odd. To be a sitcom "of all time" I'd think it would need to be a discussion of long running shows, not a mixture of hardly aired and lasted a few seasons...

"Worst" is a different category than "Best," and in some ways utilizes the reverse metrics. While a show running long could be an indication of good quality, a show ending quickly could be an indication of bad quality.

I mean, we've already had one person complain about Yes Dear being on the list because it ran for 6 seasons.

"Of all time" just means since TV started. There could be a separate list of "worst long-running sitcoms" but to say they're the worst of "all time" doesn't really have an broadcast length requirement.

Mike86 07-26-17 10:50 PM

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I actually didn't mind The Millers. It wasn't anything great but I don't think it's worth a slot on a worst sitcoms of all time list.

Inhumans99 07-27-17 01:37 AM

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Wait...what, Harry and the Hendersons (fun film) spun off a sitcom and lasted three seasons, how the heck did I miss it when it aired? If Netflix ever obtained I am curious enough to watch.

mcnabb 07-27-17 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13121949)

I never watched Yes, Dear, but just having Jean Louisa Kelly in the cast elevates it from being the worst of anything.

She was hot in that show, and it had the perfect timeslot between Raymond and King of Queens, so it was a good filler show on a Monday Night.

DaveNinja 07-27-17 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 13121833)
If the amount of people who complained about "The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfieffer" actually ever watched "The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfieffer", it never would have gone off the air ;)
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I watched it when it aired. I think it was on after 7th Heaven

milo bloom 07-27-17 01:07 PM

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I take issue with so many shows that managed to last at least a few seasons being lumped in with stuff that only lasted 1 season or just a few eps.

I enjoyed the hell out of Mama's Family as a kid, it was relatively wholesome entertainment so my parents didn't mind, and Vicky was clearly a protege of the great Carol Burnett and that came through quite often.

I haven't tried to watch it for years, but I don't need to: I loved it for what it was.

DJariya 07-27-17 01:16 PM

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Worst is kind of a weird assessment of a show. It can either mean unsuccessful and cancelled quickly or critically hated.

I've always enjoyed 2 Broke Girls even though it was critically ridiculed and disliked by most. It had cheap laughs and probably most thought the humor was juvenile, but it always kept me entertained. But you could hardly call it unsuccessful like many in the list from the OP. It lasted 6 seasons (138 episodes) and is a money maker for Warner Bros right now in syndication. The only reason why it got cancelled this past season was because CBS didn't own it (for future profits) and production cost. It actually did very well ratings-wise for most of it's run. But, it wasn't getting The Big Bang Theory type ratings and CBS decided to cut their losses.

It has over 2.3M likes on their Facebook page. It definitely had a fan base. Not many shows get that kind of following on social media. You really can't say it was one of the worst just by your own personal dislike for it by seeing what a handful of episodes.

There are plenty of shittier comedies that you can really call the worst (bad ratings, bad reviews, plug quickly pulled)

I mean seriously...10 years ago, ABC actually tried to turn the Geico Caveman into a weekly comedy series. Who thought that was a good idea?

There are worst things that have been on the air than a 30 minute comedy about 2 attractive young woman who work in a diner.

Trevor 07-27-17 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13122642)
I take issue with so many shows that managed to last at least a few seasons being lumped in with stuff that only lasted 1 season or just a few eps.

I enjoyed the hell out of Mama's Family as a kid, it was relatively wholesome entertainment so my parents didn't mind, and Vicky was clearly a protege of the great Carol Burnett and that came through quite often.

I haven't tried to watch it for years, but I don't need to: I loved it for what it was.

This.

hdnmickey 07-27-17 01:32 PM

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A terrible show can easily go on for multiple seasons for reasons that have nothing to do with quality. I agree with 2 Broke Girls being on this list. Just awful, but the two leads were hot and there is a market for over the top sex jokes.

DJariya 07-27-17 01:38 PM

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Many and some here think The Big Bang Theory is garbage, yet it's 10 going on 11 seasons in with almost 200 episodes. Plus, it spawned a spinoff. I recall when the Pilot aired, some here thought it was the worst and predicted quick cancellation.

Probably one of the most successful 30 minute comedies in the history of TV. Whether you're a fan or not, that's subjective.

Jay G. 07-27-17 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13122650)
Worst is kind of a weird assessment of a show. It can either mean unsuccessful and cancelled quickly or critically hated.

Ideally, both, but yes there's more than one metric one can use to determine what's the worst sitcom.


Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13122677)
Many and some here think The Big Bang Theory is garbage, yet it's 10 going on 11 seasons in with almost 200 episodes. Plus, it spawned a spinoff. I recall when the Pilot aired, some here thought it was the worst and predicted quick cancellation.

Probably one of the most successful 30 minute comedies in the history of TV. Whether you're a fan or not, that's subjective.

"Worst" is subjective, yes. Just because something is successful doesn't mean it's good.

And from the OP:

Originally Posted by JimRochester (Post 13121574)
Obviously all lists are subjective


Rob V 07-27-17 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 13122160)
Wikipedia has a list of shows that only lasted one episode. One of them is Co-ed Fever, starring Heather Thomas. It sounds dreadful.

After reading the article, I want to see Turn-On, the show that was canceled part way through the broadcast of the first episode.

If there is anything worse than this in concept or practice, I'll eat my hat:

Heil Honey I'm Home! (September 30, 1990)
Comedy on British satellite channel Galaxy that spoofed American sitcoms of the 1950s and 1960s by featuring caricatures of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun who live in matrimonial bliss until they become neighbours to a Jewish couple.[6] In unseen episodes the Hitlers plot to murder their Jewish neighbours.

Jay G. 07-27-17 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 13122698)
If there is anything worse than this in concept or practice, I'll eat my hat:

Heil Honey I'm Home! (September 30, 1990)
Comedy on British satellite channel Galaxy that spoofed American sitcoms of the 1950s and 1960s by featuring caricatures of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun who live in matrimonial bliss until they become neighbours to a Jewish couple. In unseen episodes the Hitlers plot to murder their Jewish neighbours.

See, that seems like it could be funny to me, but I like dark humor.

It also seems somewhat similar to That's My Bush! in terms of spoofing sitcom tropes.

It could've been done like the "Mr Hilter" sketch on Monty Python:

Or the play in the Producers.

Crocker Jarmen 07-27-17 02:34 PM

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Wow, I gave up around the three minute mark. Hitler controversy aside, the smarmy sit-com conventions they are "satirizing" makes this unwatchable.

hdnmickey 07-27-17 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 13122696)
"Worst" is subjective, yes. Just because something is successful doesn't mean it's good.

This.

Often applies to movies as well. So many awesome films go largely unseen while total garbage rakes in money around the world.

As an example,are the CBS ARRP shows like NCIS any good anymore, or do they skate by because their ancient base will take in anything at this point based on the title of the show? Same goes for many multiple season sitcoms like 2 Broke Girls, just a different base audience.

Coral 07-27-17 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13122650)
I've always enjoyed 2 Broke Girls even though it was critically ridiculed and disliked by most. It had cheap laughs and probably most thought the humor was juvenile...

The problem with 2BG isn't just the cheap dirty laughs and juvenile humour... it was also the delivery. 2.5 Men can be pretty raunchy and juvenile as well, and while it's certainly not a good show - the dialog, joke and overall delivery was miles better (at least during the Sheen era - never really saw after that).

2BG follows a strict formula with their comedy. Almost every second line is a punchline. Rarely does anyone respond to a question/comment with anything besides a dumb joke... and it's usually something dirty (or something related to the big-chested ones mother/past). Pushing punchlines that frequently and in that manner makes everything so redundant, formulaic and tiring. It's basically trying way too hard. Other sitcoms can actually have real conversations - and mixed in will be some smaller jokes that aren't attempting to get a huge laugh.

2BG definitely belongs on this list - regardless of how many people watched it and how long it ran.

hdnmickey 07-27-17 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13122759)
The problem with 2BG isn't just the cheap dirty laughs and juvenile humour... it was also the delivery. 2.5 Men can be pretty raunchy and juvenile as well, and while it's certainly not a good show - the dialog, joke and overall delivery was miles better (at least during the Sheen era - never really saw after that).

Great example. Probably mostly because Sheen and Cryer were far better than anybody ever on 2BG. Hell, even the boy could pull off jokes better than the 2BG primary actresses.

JimRochester 07-27-17 04:24 PM

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Not to mention some sit-coms will recycle jokes from one season to another. 2BG will recycle jokes in the same episode. I liked 2.5 men in the Sheen era. Vulgar comedy doesn't bother me, but as Coral said, the delivery just wasn't there for me on 2BG. A couple of those on the list we watched, and while I'll agree they weren't great, not sure if they deserve "worst".

Michael Corvin 07-27-17 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 13122759)
The problem with 2BG isn't just the cheap dirty laughs and juvenile humour... it was also the delivery. 2.5 Men can be pretty raunchy and juvenile as well, and while it's certainly not a good show - the dialog, joke and overall delivery was miles better (at least during the Sheen era - never really saw after that).

2BG follows a strict formula with their comedy. Almost every second line is a punchline. Rarely does anyone respond to a question/comment with anything besides a dumb joke... and it's usually something dirty (or something related to the big-chested ones mother/past). Pushing punchlines that frequently and in that manner makes everything so redundant, formulaic and tiring. It's basically trying way too hard. Other sitcoms can actually have real conversations - and mixed in will be some smaller jokes that aren't attempting to get a huge laugh.

2BG definitely belongs on this list - regardless of how many people watched it and how long it ran.

It's not just the delivery, but that was a HUGE problem when I watched it, but the two leads are just horrible actresses. Plus they aren't near hot enough to overcome those shortcomings.

Hokeyboy 07-28-17 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hype (Post 13122190)
Is there any wonder why I watch Two broke Girls? For dem Tittays and dat ass.

Tiddies and dat ass can be found anywhere, for free, at any time. Sitting through 22 minutes of stilted, unfunny tripe just for a glimpse of tiddies and dat ass is quite retarded.

majorjoe23 07-28-17 01:48 PM

Re: Worst sitcoms of all time
 

Originally Posted by Inhumans99 (Post 13122386)
Wait...what, Harry and the Hendersons (fun film) spun off a sitcom and lasted three seasons, how the heck did I miss it when it aired? If Netflix ever obtained I am curious enough to watch.

I think it was first-run syndicated, so your local stations might have never picked it up.

To echo what Hokeyboy said, here's something to prevent you from ever having to watch a horrible show because someone is hot:

https://images.google.com

writer106 07-29-17 10:27 AM

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I agree with others Yes, Dear doesn't belong on the list.

I also remember seeing the Harry and the Hendersons sitcom and I remember as a kid I though it was pretty bad.

The Valeyard 07-29-17 11:08 AM

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Anyone remember The New Monkees?


fujishig 07-29-17 12:23 PM

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I never really watched it regularly, but it's amazing to me that Saved By The Bell the New Class was never run in syndication despite the fact that it was much longer than the original which, along with the college years, are always endlessly repeated.

But I guess if we're adding all the kids/teens dedicated shows that opens another floodgate.

writer106 07-29-17 08:33 PM

Re: Worst sitcoms of all time
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13123981)
I never really watched it regularly, but it's amazing to me that Saved By The Bell the New Class was never run in syndication despite the fact that it was much longer than the original which, along with the college years, are always endlessly repeated.

But I guess if we're adding all the kids/teens dedicated shows that opens another floodgate.

I also thought it was weird that show never made it to syndication. Some of the other Saturday morning teen sitcoms that NBC had back in the 90s like Hang Time and City Guys were rerun briefly on WGN and a couple of other cable channels.

nando820 07-29-17 09:48 PM

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I kinda hated Whitney and Big Bang feels so average, i dont get the love it gets

TheMovieman 07-29-17 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hokeyboy (Post 13123380)
tiddies and dat ass can be found anywhere, for free, at any time. Sitting through 22 minutes of stilted, unfunny tripe just for a glimpse of tiddies and dat ass is quite retarded.

+1000

movieguru 07-29-17 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnabb (Post 13121692)
Anyone who grew up in the 80's will remember that 'Small Wonder' was one of the worst sitcoms of all-time.

I always liked this show. It wasn't great, but it was a more novel premise for a family sitcom at the time. This was the first show I thought of when seeing the thread title and I was sure it wouldn't take long for it to be mentioned.

thetao 07-30-17 01:01 AM

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In spite of it running NINE seasons (that can't be right??), please tell me I'm not the only person who considers Family Matters absolute dreck.

brayzie 07-30-17 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thetao (Post 13124215)
In spite of it running NINE seasons (that can't be right??), please tell me I'm not the only person who considers Family Matters absolute dreck.

I grew up watching and enjoying Family Matters and Full House but by the time I got to middle school I really hated those shows. It really seemed like Urkel was purposely trying to drive Carl insane.

On the other hand, I grew up hating Three's Company and how every episode was based around some stupid misunderstanding. But now I think that show is hilarious.

Michael Corvin 07-30-17 02:29 AM

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Family Matters was decent until it turned into The Urkel Show.

Jason 07-30-17 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Infidel (Post 13122014)
I have a feeling Young Sheldon is going to be on a future worst list.

It'll certainly go on the "worst sitcom ideas" list.

The trailer made it look like The Wonder Years, including odd foreshadowing regarding his father's death. It doesn't look slapdash or like a quick cash grab. I think it's going to be well written and acted, but wholly inappropriate for the character and will not compliment the original material in any way.

mcnabb 07-30-17 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 13124216)

On the other hand, I grew up hating Three's Company and how every episode was based around some stupid misunderstanding. But now I think that show is hilarious.

I loved Three's Company when I was growing (I probably shouldn't have been allowed to watch it as an 8 year old kid but the sex jokes went right over my head).

I still watch the reruns but I wonder if it doesn't hold up to new generations? This was a top 5 show throughout most of its run but it's never mentioned these days when they talk about classic comedies.

GoldenJCJ 07-30-17 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 13123380)
Tiddies and dat ass can be found anywhere, for free, at any time. Sitting through 22 minutes of stilted, unfunny tripe just for a glimpse of tiddies and dat ass is quite retarded.

Agreed! I hear people use this explanation a lot when defending why they watched 2BG and if it was some nudity filled HBO or Showtime comedy I might understand but it wasn't even "tiddies" it was just cleavage! Who the hell woukd sit through that dreck for a little bit of cleavage?! :lol:

One I haven't seen mentioned is That 80s Show. One of the few "worst" sitcoms I gave a chance. It is the only sitcom I've ever seen that didn't have any jokes. It was simply "hey, remember this from the 80s" without any punchlines. I'm not even sure the show had writers, just producers who vaguely remembered pop culture from the 80s.

robin2099 07-30-17 06:06 PM

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I never really watched it regularly, but it's amazing to me that Saved By The Bell the New Class was never run in syndication despite the fact that it was much longer than the original which, along with the college years, are always endlessly repeated.
It actually did air in syndication on the USA network for three years but that was it. It was pulled from USA before it's final season ever made it to syndication. I think the biggest reason no one else picked it up is the original was still so popular, most other networks just wanted that and not the inferior version.


I also thought it was weird that show never made it to syndication. Some of the other Saturday morning teen sitcoms that NBC had back in the 90s like Hang Time and City Guys were rerun briefly on WGN and a couple of other cable channels.
Honestly, I'm surprised that those old TNBC shows haven't shown up on HULU yet. All of them are owned by NBC/Universal and I could see a lot of interest in those being re-watched. Saved by the Bell and The College Years is on there, why not California Dreams, City Guys and Hang Time?


In spite of it running NINE seasons (that can't be right??), please tell me I'm not the only person who considers Family Matters absolute dreck.
I think Family Matters(at least the first five seasons) holds up really well. Urkel saved that show. So does Step By Step mostly. Of the TGIF shows Full House is the only one I can't watch because it's so cornball.


I loved Three's Company when I was growing (I probably shouldn't have been allowed to watch it as an 8 year old kid but the sex jokes went right over my head).

I still watch the reruns but I wonder if it doesn't hold up to new generations? This was a top 5 show throughout most of its run but it's never mentioned these days when they talk about classic comedies
Honestly I don't think it's that, as much as in this PC era the premise of it being scandalous to have two guys and a girl living together with one of them pretending to be gay would be attacked endlessly by the social justice warriors. It's still a really funny show though and John Ritter's performance should be remembered.

I second everything said about Two broke girls btw. I've watched a handful of episodes since I work thirds and oftentimes can't sleep and I've never laughed once. Normally the only thing that I enjoy from it is Stiffler's Mom.

writer106 07-31-17 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by robin2099 (Post 13124518)
It actually did air in syndication on the USA network for three years but that was it. It was pulled from USA before it's final season ever made it to syndication. I think the biggest reason no one else picked it up is the original was still so popular, most other networks just wanted that and not the inferior version.



Honestly, I'm surprised that those old TNBC shows haven't shown up on HULU yet. All of them are owned by NBC/Universal and I could see a lot of interest in those being re-watched. Saved by the Bell and The College Years is on there, why not California Dreams, City Guys and Hang Time?



I think Family Matters(at least the first five seasons) holds up really well. Urkel saved that show. So does Step By Step mostly. Of the TGIF shows Full House is the only one I can't watch because it's so cornball.



Honestly I don't think it's that, as much as in this PC era the premise of it being scandalous to have two guys and a girl living together with one of them pretending to be gay would be attacked endlessly by the social justice warriors. It's still a really funny show though and John Ritter's performance should be remembered.

I second everything said about Two broke girls btw. I've watched a handful of episodes since I work thirds and oftentimes can't sleep and I've never laughed once. Normally the only thing that I enjoy from it is Stiffler's Mom.

I now kind of remember California Dreams being aired on USA for awhile too. There has been a recent boost in 90s nostalgia and maybe Hulu would pick those up those shows.


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