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Old 06-19-17, 04:08 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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Lived how Richard gave Dinesh a backpack with suicide switch, basically making him look like a suicide bomber.
That went right past me.
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Old 06-19-17, 04:36 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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Loved how Richard gave Dinesh a backpack with suicide switch, basically making him look like a suicide bomber.
Yeah, I was waiting for that to pay off but they never did.
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Old 06-19-17, 04:50 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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agree - all their stuff up to this point, they've been sympathetic - big break followed by horrible luck. Rinse. Repeat.

but now they've actively gone out and hacked people's devices. not cool. I know that was kind of the point of the whole episode, but it kind of soured me on them (just a little).
Agree, almost a jump the shark moment for me and the show. Richard has always been neurotic and obsessive and annoying but moved into more of truly dislikable piece of crap in this episode.
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Old 06-19-17, 06:01 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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Yeah, I was waiting for that to pay off but they never did.
Yeah, me too. Honestly not sure if I'm glad that it didn't have a payoff or not
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Old 06-19-17, 08:11 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

Much like Pied Piper did with their tech, the characters/show had to pivot.

It was repetitive with the constant good guys with good tech getting screwed over and over. Now even the characters have acknowledged this repeating scenario, which is why they had to get dirty. I can accept that these guys are not really "good guys" any more (or at least for the time being) - and that this was the approach the writers took. Something had to change.
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Old 06-19-17, 08:23 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

I don't know if this is intentional, but all along it has always seemed like most of their problems resulted or at least worsened in large part due to their own inflated ego and greed.
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Old 06-20-17, 07:18 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

Yup, Richard has many times sabotaged the team with his neuroses, and has been bailed out by dumb luck as much as he has been harmed by it. But to hack devices? I guess they are going to parody Uber now with the executives just being outright scumbags.
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Old 06-20-17, 08:37 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

Oof. Super awkward interview with Miller...

http://www.ora.tv/larrykingnow/2017/...silicon-valley

There's no way he wanted out of the show. HBO fired him/let him go. TJ barely held it together during that part of interview, his eyes and body language telling the real truth. Someone, probably his manager/agent, fucked up negotiations with HBO.
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Old 06-20-17, 08:53 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

I didn't find that awkward at all. He is being sincere. While I have no doubts this probably wasn't his decision, he will be fine. He will get plenty of movie roles as the crazy friend or neighbor.
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Old 06-20-17, 09:07 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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Yeah, me too. Honestly not sure if I'm glad that it didn't have a payoff or not
I think part of the payoff was Jared's reaction when he overheard some of the plan. It was almost like he thought that they were talking about an actual bomb in the backpack (as he purposely didn't know what their real plans were).
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Old 06-20-17, 09:30 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

Miller has gone on record saying that he loves working on Silicon Valley but he never set out to be a TV actor. I don't think it's that weird that he took the opportunity to exit, especially with more movie options available.
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Old 06-22-17, 09:44 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

You know what I just realized? Bighead hasn't been on for several episodes.
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Old 06-22-17, 10:03 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

He's never been a regular, and frankly is better in small doses.
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Old 06-22-17, 10:09 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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He's never been a regular, and frankly is better in small doses.
I know, but it seemed like he was on more episodes in past seasons.
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Old 06-23-17, 09:32 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

I'm guessing HBO cut ties with TJ after that horrid special that just aired. What a train wreck.
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Old 06-24-17, 09:49 AM
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I'm guessing HBO cut ties with TJ after that horrid special that just aired. What a train wreck.
Pretty sure this all happened well before.

I know people love conspiracy theories, but could it be as simple as Miller didn't want to do the show anymore and HBO said OK and that's it?
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Old 06-24-17, 01:19 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

BAHAHAHA! That King interview says it all. Miller is leaving because HBO balked at a pay raise plain and simple. HBO most likely said, listen we can't give you a pay raise because then all the actors would have more leverage and the show would be even more enormously expensive to produce. What if you made a comedy special in lieu of raise?

It was blatantly obvious when it was first announced TJ's money negotiations failed. But Miller dancing around in that interview seals the deal. You don't leave a quasi successful show, especially one that the character you play has a pretty significant roll on because "it's time/felt right." Bullshit.

And his comedy special proves just how unfunny on his own that he actually is (I haven't seen it, only the trailer and that shit is not funny). He's only funny because Mike Judge gives him amazing material. Just because you get hired to act funny doesn't make you a "stand-up" comedian. Usually a trailer for a comedy special will highlight the "funny" parts of your act... not one thing in that trailer made me want to waste my time watching Miller try and do stand-up. Miller will always get hired to be that side-kick funny guy but he won't break out further than that.

Watch, give it a few years and I bet he ends up on some crappy CBS sitcom. Onwards and upwards TJ!
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Old 06-24-17, 05:26 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

I sat through the whole special and not only is it not funny TJ does something completely ridiculous at the beginning. He comes out sweating profusely and apparently to cover this he has bottles of water in nearly every pocket and pours complete bottles all over himself. This, of course creates a continuity nightmare as the performance cuts back and forth between shows and the stains on his clothes constantly change. Not to mention that it's completely distracting to whatever he's doing. Massive fail.
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Old 06-25-17, 01:51 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

TJ Miller has been a successful standup comic for years. The movie and TV stuff came at about the same time.
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

Tyler Perry is somehow massively successful too and is also considered a "comedian." Comedy is quantitative. Success doesn't necessarily translate into funny. Obviously Miller has a decent sized millennial fan base that support his stand-up routine.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of touring comedians who are not funny but still get paid enough to do it for a living.
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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Tyler Perry is somehow massively successful too and is also considered a "comedian." Comedy is quantitative. Success doesn't necessarily translate into funny. Obviously Miller has a decent sized millennial fan base that support his stand-up routine.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of touring comedians who are not funny but still get paid enough to do it for a living.
But what kind of living? A seedy studio apartment in Hollywood?
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Old 06-25-17, 09:42 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

Dane Cook was selling out arenas and has never said a funny thing in his life.
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Old 06-25-17, 11:23 PM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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I don't think that decision was made until recently which would be well after filming ended.
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Exactly. Filming ended on this season probably 6 months ago. They just recently came to the decision that he wasn't coming back.
It sure seems like they knew they were writing him out.
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Old 06-26-17, 12:02 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

I think my wife told me that she heard in a podcast, or read somewhere, that TJ Miller was leaving the show because was spending so much time afar from his wife. She had a great a gig in NYC, or something like that, and they would spend half a year apart if he continued in the show.

But yeah, I think he did the right decision. His character was good in small amounts, and he could easily become the worst part of the show with just one funny line.
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Old 06-26-17, 12:35 AM
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Re: Silicon Valley (HBO) -- Season 4 Thread -- Premieres 4/23/17

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It sure seems like they knew they were writing him out.
There's an item on Entertainment Weekly that says that had TJ stayed it would have been a cliffhanger, and he would eventually make his way back after insulting his way through many world cultures throughout the season. TJ decided this was a good place to leave his character, and doesn't intend to come back, since it would ruin the joke for him.
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