Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
If someone is playing an actual person and is able to make me forget about the actress and start feeling like she is truly inhabiting that character, there is more going on than just a resemblance. Over the course of the season, I felt the cadence of speech from Sarandon, the gestures, the looks were all spot on, as if she really was that person and not just an imitation. I didn't think I needed to write all that, but I guess I did.
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
Really? You don't say!
If someone is playing an actual person and is able to make me forget about the actress and start feeling like she is truly inhabiting that character, there is more going on than just a resemblance. Over the course of the season, I felt the cadence of speech from Sarandon, the gestures, the looks were all spot on, as if she really was that person and not just an imitation. I didn't think I needed to write all that, but I guess I did.
If someone is playing an actual person and is able to make me forget about the actress and start feeling like she is truly inhabiting that character, there is more going on than just a resemblance. Over the course of the season, I felt the cadence of speech from Sarandon, the gestures, the looks were all spot on, as if she really was that person and not just an imitation. I didn't think I needed to write all that, but I guess I did.
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
I just binge watched and enjoyed very much. Excellent performances all around. I loved Mamacita.
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
Olivia de Havilland Files Lawsuit Over ‘Feud’ Portrayal
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/02/a...portrayal.html
Olivia de Havilland, who won two Oscars during Hollywood’s golden age, filed a lawsuit on Friday against FX Networks and Ryan Murphy Productions over her gossipy portrayal in the television show “Feud: Bette and Joan.”
“FX defendants misappropriated Olivia de Havilland’s name, likeness and identity without her permission and used them falsely in order to exploit their own commercial interests,” the lawsuit says. Ms. de Havilland, 101, is seeking damages for “emotional harm” and “harm to her reputation,” and is also pushing for an injunction against the use of her name and likeness.
“Feud: Bette and Joan” portrays the decades-long rivalry between Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, and is part of Mr. Murphy’s larger FX anthology series depicting feuds throughout history. Ms. de Havilland and Davis were close friends and starred in four films together, including “Hush … Hush, Sweet Charlotte.” In the series, Ms. de Havilland, played by Catherine Zeta-Jones, is an important character, appearing in six episodes as a confidante to Davis and an active participant in the Davis-Crawford drama.
The lawsuit rejects both the quotes attributed to Ms. de Havilland and the overall tone of the portrayal. “Olivia de Havilland has made efforts, spent time and money, protecting her well-defined public image as one who does not engage in gossip and other unkind, ill-mannered behavior,” the lawsuit reads.
Mr. Murphy, the creator of “Feud,” told the The Hollywood Reporter in April that he did not contact de Havilland about her portrayal in the series.
“I didn’t write Olivia because I didn’t want to be disrespectful and ask her, ‘Did this happen? Did that happen? What was your take on that?’” he said.
“FX defendants misappropriated Olivia de Havilland’s name, likeness and identity without her permission and used them falsely in order to exploit their own commercial interests,” the lawsuit says. Ms. de Havilland, 101, is seeking damages for “emotional harm” and “harm to her reputation,” and is also pushing for an injunction against the use of her name and likeness.
“Feud: Bette and Joan” portrays the decades-long rivalry between Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, and is part of Mr. Murphy’s larger FX anthology series depicting feuds throughout history. Ms. de Havilland and Davis were close friends and starred in four films together, including “Hush … Hush, Sweet Charlotte.” In the series, Ms. de Havilland, played by Catherine Zeta-Jones, is an important character, appearing in six episodes as a confidante to Davis and an active participant in the Davis-Crawford drama.
The lawsuit rejects both the quotes attributed to Ms. de Havilland and the overall tone of the portrayal. “Olivia de Havilland has made efforts, spent time and money, protecting her well-defined public image as one who does not engage in gossip and other unkind, ill-mannered behavior,” the lawsuit reads.
Mr. Murphy, the creator of “Feud,” told the The Hollywood Reporter in April that he did not contact de Havilland about her portrayal in the series.
“I didn’t write Olivia because I didn’t want to be disrespectful and ask her, ‘Did this happen? Did that happen? What was your take on that?’” he said.
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
I really don't see the purpose of suing someone at 101.
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
That's kind of a bummer, actually. You'd think being portrayed sympathetically and by Catherine Zeta Jones would be inoffensive for a public figure. Olivia came off way-better than Bette or Joan did. The worst things you could say about her were that she was firmly on Bette's side (she was), she hated her sister (well-documented) and she apparently looked AMAZING in 1978 (that's TV-generous).
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
That's kind of a bummer, actually. You'd think being portrayed sympathetically and by Catherine Zeta Jones would be inoffensive for a public figure. Olivia came off way-better than Bette or Joan did. The worst things you could say about her were that she was firmly on Bette's side (she was), she hated her sister (well-documented) and she apparently looked AMAZING in 1978 (that's TV-generous).
Yeah, I don't get the lawsuit. She came across on the show very well. Probably just an agent or relative seeing a way to a quick buck and convinced her to sign her name on the dotted line to sue.
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Re: Feud: Bette and Joan (FX) -- S: Lange, Sarandon -- From Ryan Murphy -- 3/5/17
FEUD: Olivia de Havilland's Lawsuit Against FX Drama Dismissed by Court
http://tvline.com/2018/03/27/feud-ol...yan-murphy-fx/
http://tvline.com/2018/03/27/feud-ol...yan-murphy-fx/