cleaver

I think it's inappropriate to throw a paying audience member out of a show for making a visceral reaction to a joke meant to offend. Make jokes at the person's expense like Chappelle does effortlessly or say they can leave like Schumer, by throwing her out Lopez is the snowflake.

I find this trend to be more a product of the limitless desire for content for blogs and social media. I'm offended by commercials for Kevin James and Matt Leblancs shows, it's like the moral is always gender roles and let the man be a complete moron. Again maybe it's because of the demand for content they put shows on the air with lowest denominator humor.

I think anything funny is in bounds. The Don't take away c*nt it's great when you want to make a woman feel small from last week, that's just a great joke, who could find that non PC?

mcnabb

Look at most of the shows you named: Animated Characters. It seems the way to get around the PC police is having an animated character like someone in South Park or The Movie 'Ted' where a Teddy Bear talks non-PC. Even the characters in It's Always Sunny are so out there and not anywhere remotely normal that they can probably get away with it.

But you would never see a major sitcom on NBC or ABC with real actors talking about gays, transgenders, etc, as they will get whacked by the PC Police.

That's the difference between now and 20-30 years ago. Archie Bunker was on CBS in Primetime, The Jeffersons and Sanford & Son were on in Primetime, and both said the 'N' word too, as now it would get beeped. (Not sure when they started beeping the 'N' word, probably the 90's?)

I remember and episode of Sanford & Son from the 70's where Lamont was going to court for a traffic ticket and Fred was complaining to the Judge that the White Cop was a racist. He said, "You have so many N***ers in this courtroom, you could make a Tarzan movie!"

You would NEVER see that on a major network today.

slop101

You have to take things case by case - blanket descriptors are no good. Basically, I find people who complain about things being "too PC", just want carte blanche to be assholes. If you're not being mean or trying to hurt someone's feelings, who fucking cares what you say. IOW, replace "being politically correct" with "not being an asshole", and you'll get the idea.
A comedian making a joke could go either way, so you have to take those in a case by case basis.

Getting back to the thread...

It was subtle, but I really liked Dennis at the end who was visibly impressed by what Dee did. Pretty good character moment.

mcnabb

And Mac's PTSD dreams were classic.

DaveNinja

totally!

wmansir

After last week's A+, I'd give this one more of a C+.

I liked Dennis and Charles daddy/boy banter, plus Dennis's denial of being abused, but the payoff on stage at the end lost me. I got what they were going for, but it just didn't work for me. Similarly I saw Dees plan soon after she said she was going to reunite him with his daughter, which seemed kind of out of place otherwise. I even suspected it was the blonde because she seemed to stand out in the audience. However, I still thought the reveal and Dee's ranting was funny.

cleaver

It wouldn't be funny today because casual racism from cops isn't funny after you watch video of three 20-something black guys get shot at close range without provocation the same week with zero repercussions for the cops. Now is that political correctness or having empathy for people who know there's a decent chance their children will have guns drawn on them by people in authority for no reason?

dex14

Lets just try and stay on topic for the show. Plenty of topics about this in Other. Not sure if there is comedy/free speech/PC one though. Maybe someone can start one. Thanks.

BDB

This season -Just gets better and better with each episode.

Loved the reveal at the end of this, and yes Dennis' admiration was awesome.

whotony

What do you mean, reveal?

The gift for Dennis?

BDB

I was an episode behind when I posted that. The stripper reveal from the previous episode.

this one was the weakest so far for me of the season.

mcnabb

I have loved episode this season, but the Valentines Day episode just didn't work for me. This show has the ability to make me piss my pants when it is rolling on all cylinders, but when it's a bad episode, I rarely laugh. Oh well, still a great season for this long into its run.

dex14

I loved the Valentine's episode.

slop101

It had some solid laughs, but the Valentine's episode was the weakest of this season so far.

dex14

I'm not sure what is in store for tonight's finale but...

Glenn Howerton May Not Return to ‘It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia’ (Exclusive)
http://www.thewrap.com/glenn-howerto...hia-exclusive/

Keep in mind the show is already renewed through Season 14. Howerton did just sign up for a pilot. But Kaitlin Olsen seems to be making it work with The Mick.

RichC2

I wouldn't put it past this show to do literally anything.

mcnabb

Well the cliffhanger leaves them the option to nix Dennis' character from the show. I don't think the show would be the same without all of the main characters, as it wouldn't feel right without one of them.

Still love Dennis bleeding before he gets shot at the end.

Coral

While I do like his inclusion in the series, I think the show would still function well if Frank left. The rest of the characters are mandatory IMO.

Are we sure this isn't the final season? The storylines seem to be what you would expect from a final season.

- Mac finally coming out
- Dennis has a kid and is apparently leaving the show (I guess?)
- Charlie finally banging the waitress
- an episode dedicated to Cricket along with some backstory
- many call-backs to previous seasons

It feels like they're trying to wrap everything up.

dex14

Last night definitely could've serviced as a series finale. But it has been renewed for two more seasons, and it was a big deal when it was. Howerton will be getting paid as a producer regardless of acting on the show. If he wants to take a break from the role after 12 seasons, it is understandable.

boogieman03

I think the show falls apart without Dennis. I hope he comes back.

mcnabb

He's the only who tries to be normal (or tries to act normal in his own way) to offset the other characters when they are acting crazy, even though he is probably the most creepy/pyschotic character on the show.

bralph

I had no idea that was the season finale. This show seems to go so fast through their seasons. I agree that the show would suffer without Dennis, but this show has continued to surprise me, so if anyone could make it work it would be this group.

Thrush

If Kaitlin or Charlie left it would be understandable. As both are getting work outside the show. But I always thought Glenn and Mac's entire careers were the show.

DaveNinja

Howerton doesnt need the show. He's rich from his ER royalties

RichC2

Make Season 13 a road trip to get Dennis back.