Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
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Dolores (Evan Rachel Wood) and Bernard (Jeffrey Wright) reconnect with their pasts; Maeve (Thandie Newton) makes a bold proposition to Hector (Rodrigo Santoro); Teddy (James Marsden) finds enlightenment, at a price. Written by Dan Dietz & Katherine Lingenfelter; directed by Michelle MacLaren. Episode 9 of 10 |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
So, some big reveals this episode, namely that finally Bernard is confirmed to be a host clone of Arnold.
Maeve now has an "army" of one, Hector. Although maybe she's planning something more. I'm wondering what Ford's reasoning is for digging up the old town for his "new narrative" is. The "Wyatt" massacre now seems closer to the original massacre that Delores was part of. I was thinking that Teddy may actually be "Wyatt," and his men are trying to wake him to that, although another possibility I've heard is that Delores is Wyatt. It's also odd that the woman that "killed" Teddy deliberately did so in order for him to loop again, suggesting the Wyatt hosts are somewhat aware of being hosts. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Fantastic episode. Too bad this show is 18 months from coming back :(
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
(Post 12956888)
Fantastic episode. Too bad this show is 18 months from coming back :(
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
I feel it's getting too convoluted for its own good. Lots of things now that I'm a little bit fuzzy on. Starting with why kill Bernard when you can just wipe his memory (and how did Maeve know he was a Host in the first place)? When folks discover his "body" there will be a lot of questions raised. Plus now they've killed half of the series' regulars who run the park, making the behind the scenes stuff a lot less interesting moving forward.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Maeve is literally the smartest in the park with her modifications. She knows who all the hosts are and can control them.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by The Questyen
(Post 12956898)
You mean besides the episode that airs next week.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Ed Harris is a high official/boardmember of the company. I thought he was from the outside. That was a great episode, too.
Good to see Clementine back. :hump: https://images.moviepilot.com/images...-westworld.jpg |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
So is there nobody still around who worked with Arnold in the past? Seems odd that Ford would create clone of such a prominent person yet nobody knows.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Deftones
(Post 12957113)
So is there nobody still around who worked with Arnold in the past? Seems odd that Ford would create clone of such a prominent person yet nobody knows.
But we have to wait until next week episode to rewatch the entire series and check every interaction Bernard had with "real" people. Or just read reddit. Kind of a plot hole to me, it may have already mentioned, how como a low tech can grant god mode to a host? I would guess that only Ford would be able to do that. Can Ford control Maeve with the back door password? |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Deftones
(Post 12957113)
So is there nobody still around who worked with Arnold in the past? Seems odd that Ford would create clone of such a prominent person yet nobody knows.
Everyone - "Uh, what? He looks just like that dude in the picture on your desk except he hasn't aged a day." 20 years later - Everyone "So, why hasn't this Bernard dude aged a day yet?" It's a deep, deep hole. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 12957111)
Ed Harris is a high official/boardmember of the company. I thought he was from the outside.
Originally Posted by Deftones
(Post 12957113)
So is there nobody still around who worked with Arnold in the past? Seems odd that Ford would create clone of such a prominent person yet nobody knows.
Originally Posted by Raul3
(Post 12957176)
At least the board should know.
Originally Posted by Raul3
(Post 12957176)
Kind of a plot hole to me, it may have already mentioned, how [come] a low tech can grant god mode to a host? I would guess that only Ford would be able to do that.
We previously saw both QA and Behavioral change some of Maeve's personality settings to try and get her better at propositioning guests, so it's not just Ford that has access, although for at least the Intelligence setting the techs aren't supposed to go over 14 (I don't know if their access is actually restricted, or if it's more of a procedural restriction). |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Board members don't really do to much. Considering the size of his investment in the company, he probably was awarded a board seat just based on percentage of ownership. Ah, gotcha. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Deftones
(Post 12957113)
So is there nobody still around who worked with Arnold in the past? Seems odd that Ford would create clone of such a prominent person yet nobody knows.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Eric F
(Post 12957372)
You would think Ed Harris' character would know, considering he's a big investor in the park and a board member.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Decker
(Post 12957011)
I feel it's getting too convoluted for its own good. Lots of things now that I'm a little bit fuzzy on. Starting with why kill Bernard when you can just wipe his memory (and how did Maeve know he was a Host in the first place)? When folks discover his "body" there will be a lot of questions raised. Plus now they've killed half of the series' regulars who run the park, making the behind the scenes stuff a lot less interesting moving forward.
-Maeve has been ramped up to "SuperHost". She can even control other Hosts. Detecting when someone is a host doesn't seem far fetched. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
They covered the Arnold thing in one of the episodes. In the early days there were only the three working there and no one knew what Arnold looked like.
Early man in black guy seemed to already have flipped out in the past so not sure what the test with killing Maeve was all about or if it was a lie. Did not see Delores being Wyatt but it makes a lot of sense. We thought the scenes with Bernard were AFTER but they were BEFORE and with the real Arnold. Thought Hopkins would be 1 and out but he seems to likely be back along with Harris and ERW. Everyone else might be new though. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Very little participation this week. Wonder what that means.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Decker
(Post 12957011)
I feel it's getting too convoluted for its own good. Lots of things now that I'm a little bit fuzzy on.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
(Post 12957696)
Very little participation this week. Wonder what that means.
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Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Bill Needle
(Post 12957712)
That's my one issue...it seems to be complicated for the sake of being complicated. Like they are trying a little too hard. The story and performances are all strong enough without having to rely on glitzy plot twists.
I've had to resort to Vanity Fair for full explanations of the show now. The writer does a really good job breaking down both the obvious (William's story) and the obscure (Ford's motivations) http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...mpered-clavier |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
(Post 12957221)
Dr. Ford - "I'd like to introduce everyone to our new director of behavior - Bernard Lowe."
Everyone - "Uh, what? He looks just like that dude in the picture on your desk except he hasn't aged a day." 20 years later - Everyone "So, why hasn't this Bernard dude aged a day yet?" It's a deep, deep hole. Almost everyone in the modern world has pictures of themselves out there, brought up with a quick google search. In the future of Westworld? Forget about it! Not to mention one of it's creators. It would be like having someone that looks exactly like Walt Disney being the manager of Disney animation studios, now, with no one noticing. Bull and shit. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 12957748)
It would be like having someone that looks exactly like Walt Disney being the manager of Disney animation studios, now, with no one noticing. Bull and shit.
http://gomerblog.wpengine.com/wp-con...lt-300x171.jpg But his name isn't Arnold. It's Bernard. |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by Decker
(Post 12957746)
They really are trying way too hard to be clever. It's taking a lot of the enjoyment out of the show for me. My (and many other people's) favorite story-line is Maeve's, and that not coincidentally is the most straightforward story in the show.
I've had to resort to Vanity Fair for full explanations of the show now. The writer does a really good job breaking down both the obvious (William's story) and the obscure (Ford's motivations) http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...mpered-clavier |
Re: Westworld (S1E09) -- "Well-Tempered Clavier" -- 11/27/16
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 12957748)
Almost everyone in the modern world has pictures of themselves out there, brought up with a quick google search. In the future of Westworld? Forget about it! Not to mention one of it's creators. It would be like having someone that looks exactly like Walt Disney being the manager of Disney animation studios, now, with no one noticing. Bull and shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks Also, keep in mind that Arnold was reportedly a recluse, and Ford mentioned that the board wiped away his history with the park. So maybe pics on the web exist, but not in connection with the park, and his involvement with the park isn't well known, especially since he died before the park opened and the publicity machine kicked in. I mean, we don't even know his last name. |
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