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Old 11-14-16, 08:33 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by stingermck View Post
Fell asleep near the end. Soooo long

Rick could have at least taken a swing with Lucille. But its the first half of the season and that always brings us pussy Rick.
Right now, Rick is the biggest pussy on TV.

This was basically an 85 min ass-raping of Rick.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

1) If they follow the comics, which they more or less are doing , Negan will be around for a while.

2) I determined last week that Negan comes across as a live-action version of the kind of villain one would find in an 80s/90s animated Don Bluth or Disney cartoon. Basically, a big ham who actually kills people. Morgan plays the role to perfection, but that may not be a good thing.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

This episode had a serious case of Sonsofanarchyitis. Regardless of what's in the comic, they really don't need to do much more taunting by Negan of Rick and his crew. We get it.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

I'm liking this season so far.
And I still have "Easy Street" stuck in my head from last week...
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

If it's pussy Rick every week, I might be done or at least wait for the season to be over and bling watch.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by bunkaroo View Post
This episode had a serious case of Sonsofanarchyitis. Regardless of what's in the comic, they really don't need to do much more taunting by Negan of Rick and his crew. We get it.
if you read the comics, its worse
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by Tom Banjo View Post
A bit surprised at the spoiler in next week's preview.

I know the backlash would be utter carnage, but had I been in Rick's position I think there's a very good chance I'd have used Lucille on Negan. Especially during the armory scene when they weren't surrounded by his men.
what is the spoiler? did i miss something
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

And this is the sort of stuff I got so bored with the comics with. I get it, Negan is evil. I get it Rick is broken. whatever. if this shit gets drawn out it'll lose a lot of interest. Especially given that if it's going off the comics, this is going to be a long time of this shit.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Count me among those who are rapidly getting tired of Negan's inane rambling and tangents. I understand this is the character and he just loves fucking with Rick and his crew, but he's basically a Troll meme come to life. And I really like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, so I've got nothing against his performance, just the character.

I think I definitely would have taken Lucille to his head at one point, consequences be damned.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Didn't Carol take a gun with her too? I'm guessing it was one that wasn't in the accounting list. So Rick didn't realize that Carol, Morgan, Heath, and Tara are also not there?

So I'm guessing Maggie is staying at the Hilltop now.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by Bill Needle View Post
Those were the mattresses they took. It showed they didn't even want them, they just wanted to take them.
Originally Posted by andicus View Post
^The burning was all the mattresses they just took.

The initial view looked like a crashed spaceship.
Originally Posted by Bill Needle View Post
At first I thought the same thing...what the heck kind of crashed plane is that?
Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post
I was watching with my brother and he said the same thing. I had no idea what I was looking at. After going back a couple of times I realized it was the mattresses.
Thank you! It is nice to know I'm not the only one who couldn't tell what it was (I thought plane crash at first too). I used to blame it on the fact that I didn't get AMC in HD, but it seems as if I miss a lot of odd details like this. Is it just poor staging/cinematography or am I just getting that damned old that I can't see?

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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Let me ask this for the sake of conversation ...

Did Rick's finding and surrendering of the guns further undermine him? I believe it did ... Had he (and Olivia) stuck with "they are with the folks who aren't here" line it would have been credible (unless the Saviors intercepted them without the guns). As it is, Negan pressed him and the guns "magically" turned up. That made it look as if Rick were trying to proactively hide the guns and leads to more mistrust.

Glad to see others are finally coming around on the Rick-loathing. He has been this despicable for a long time.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
Let me ask this for the sake of conversation ...

Did Rick's finding and surrendering of the guns further undermine him? I believe it did ... Had he (and Olivia) stuck with "they are with the folks who aren't here" line it would have been credible (unless the Saviors intercepted them without the guns). As it is, Negan pressed him and the guns "magically" turned up. That made it look as if Rick were trying to proactively hide the guns and leads to more mistrust.

Glad to see others are finally coming around on the Rick-loathing. He has been this despicable for a long time.
Didn't Negan say as much?
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that Rick should have tried to used Lucille on Negan. If he had, it would have been bye bye Daryl. He completely blames himself for Glen and Abraham. Do I like seeing Rick act this way? No, but he doesn't see a way of winning (right now anyway).

I didn't get those were mattresses at first either, they looked like stone slabs. Wish I wouldn't have watched it live, because the alternating 5 minutes of show then 3 of commercials was ridiculous.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

I would have just shot Negan through the gate and opened fire from all sides with every available gun. Sure Daryl would probably been another victim, but it is what he would do. Better to cut off the head and deal with the infighting it would create and the fractured Saviors than eat shit and lose all of your weapons and live on your belly to a psychopath.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
Thank you! It is nice to know I'm not the only one who couldn't tell what it was (I thought plane crash at first too). I used to blame it on the fact that I didn't get AMC in HD, but it seems as if I miss a lot of odd details like this. Is it just poor staging/cinematography or am I just getting that damned old that I can't see?
My wife and I had no idea either. A close-up or two would have helped. I thought it looked like an igloo had collapsed
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by andicus View Post
^The burning was all the mattresses they just took.

The initial view looked like a crashed spaceship.
When that bird was flying in the background and Michonne turned her head suddenly, I thought it was an airplane for a second.


Originally Posted by Osiris3657 View Post
Count me among those who are rapidly getting tired of Negan's inane rambling and tangents. I understand this is the character and he just loves fucking with Rick and his crew, but he's basically a Troll meme come to life. And I really like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, so I've got nothing against his performance, just the character.
I hate to bail on shows I'm invested in, but I think I'm done with this. It's not fun anymore. Negan puts me on edge more than any character since Tuco Salamanca. This endless fucking and fucking with Rick is awful. But the real topper was when Rick told Spencer he was "lucky" to have them there. WTF? The Alexandrians would have been far better off to immediately make a deal with Negan. Rick and his crew are a tsunami of woe. The Kingdom pays tribute, and they seem to be doing well. Negan gets enough to be satisfied, Ezekiel's "subjects" don't have to sleep on the floor, and it looks like they're pulling one over on them anyhow.

And don't even get me started on Carol.

I'll keep the season pass. My shitty cable doesn't carry AMC in HD (welcome to 2005!) so it won't take much room if I decide to go back to it later. I won't be surprised if I don't though.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by Jason View Post
When that bird was flying in the background and Michonne turned her head suddenly, I thought it was an airplane for a second.
I thought that too. The bird was circling so I don't know if that's what led her to the fire or if there was smoke I didn't see.

I didn't have a problem identifying the mattresses but there did seem to be something off about them.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

I feel like Neegan is a TWD forum internet troll come to life and I love it, lol. I guess if I actually gave a shit about any of the characters at this point he would be annoying or intimidating, but I just don't. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard watching this show before.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

I thought the mattresses were a spaceship crashed , seriously
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by musick View Post
Negan's schtick has got old already
I'm waiting for him to full Randy Macho Man Savage, "Ooo yeahhhh Rick!"

And I was actually hoping Negan killed Carl after he copped an attitude with him. But Carl seems untouchable despite nobody I know liking him anymore.

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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Morgan's Negan is a little over the top. Every time he talks it's like so grandiose. Kinda grating but still loving this season...
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by musick View Post
Negan's schtick has got old already
Yup...I will agree to that. I get we are supposed to hate him and all that. Does someone want to spoiler how eventually they get out of it in the comic?
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

Originally Posted by d2cheer View Post
Yup...I will agree to that. I get we are supposed to hate him and all that. Does someone want to spoiler how eventually they get out of it in the comic?
I've never read the comic but I'll assume it's super clichéd and
Spoiler:
involves the use of Lucille.
It's so obvious you could see it from outer space. Luckily a season and a half from now when it actually ends up happening my post will be a long forgotten memory.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E04) -- 85 minute episode -- "Service" -- 11/13/16

If anyone wants some big comics spoilers, they're below. Be warned:

Spoiler:
Lucille is not involved in Neegan's defeat.

Neegan does not die.


But who knows how the show might deviate from the comic.

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