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dex14 11-09-16 06:32 PM
Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
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"So It Begins" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, V) (HDTV)

SINS OF THE FATHER - When Prometheus ups his killing spree, Oliver (Stephen Amell) searches for connections between the victims. Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and Curtis (Echo Kellum) discover the victims have a mysterious link to Oliver's past and this new secret could upend his new team. Meanwhile, Thea (Willa Holland) has a heart-to-heart with Lance (Paul Blackthorne), and Felicity considers telling Malone (guest star Tyler Ritter) the truth about her work. John Behring directed the episode written by Wendy Mericle & Brian Ford Sullivan (#506). Original airdate 11/9/2016.

Axeramm 11-09-16 08:21 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
are we supposed to believe he doesnt know what he is doing by the way the show ended? And I always thought archery and martial arts were difficult but it seems anyone can learn in practically no time at all.

Koby 11-09-16 10:16 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Yeah that Prometheus reveal seems a bit weird...

Xiroteus 11-10-16 12:24 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
What?!?!?!


What?!?!?!

Odd set up, misdirection............

ytrez 11-10-16 06:39 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
No way he's Prometheus. The real Prometheus has to be Dolph Lundgren!

blairwitchfan 11-10-16 09:41 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by ytrez (Post 12943532)
No way he's Prometheus. The real Prometheus has to be Dolph Lundgren!
Based on height, I agree, but I don't think he would use the "list" He's not really tied to that. There's no way Detective Lance all of a sudden knows how to use throwing stars and archery.

Could be Tommy, resurrected by Flashpoint or Malcom used Lazarus Pit for him years ago.

Deftones 11-10-16 10:01 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
It is Oliver's dad!

Flatlander 11-10-16 10:51 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 12943726)
It is Oliver's dad!
Good call. It would be a twist on the Batman situation in Flashpoint. Only thing that does not make sense is him wanting to kill Arrow. Unless he doesn't want him killed and that is why he won't let anyone else do it.

Koby 11-10-16 11:18 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
But then what would be up with Lance having an identical cut and one of the weapons suddenly?

blairwitchfan 11-10-16 12:51 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Koby (Post 12943844)
But then what would be up with Lance having an identical cut and one of the weapons suddenly?
frame job

rw2516 11-10-16 04:56 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 12943726)
It is Oliver's dad!
Can't remember...What happened to Oliver's stepdad Walter? Was he killed?
He knows about the book and what's in it. Could be blaming The Arrow for death of Oliver's mom.

Has to be someone who didn't know Oliver and Green Arrow are same person. Prometheus didn't know until Church told him.

Koby 11-10-16 09:50 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 12944202)
Can't remember...What happened to Oliver's stepdad Walter? Was he killed?
He knows about the book and what's in it. Could be blaming The Arrow for death of Oliver's mom.

Has to be someone who didn't know Oliver and Green Arrow are same person. Prometheus didn't know until Church told him.
Pretty sure it was never implied that he didn't already know.

Deftones 11-10-16 09:52 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
I doubt it is his dad. I was joking. But that would be a damn good twist if it were.

rw2516 11-11-16 06:03 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Koby (Post 12944432)
Pretty sure it was never implied that he didn't already know.
The whole point of the scene when Church tells him is because he didn't know. That's why the reveal was a cliffhanger, To Be Continued Next Week.

Now that Prometheus knows the Queen/Arrow connection he switched to using the book to pick victims to let the Arrow know that he knows he and Queen are the same person.

Unless Prometheus is a new character we haven't seen before, he's:
A: Someone who knows Oliver but didn't know he was The Arrow, and
B: Is familiar with the book and the names in it

jwb0323 11-11-16 07:47 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Did Tommy know about the book?

Kdogg 11-11-16 07:58 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 12944574)
The whole point of the scene when Church tells him is because he didn't know. That's why the reveal was a cliffhanger, To Be Continued Next Week.


B: Is familiar with the book and the names in it
Weren't there multiple books out there. I seem to remember Oliver's and Malcolm had copies.

Koby 11-11-16 10:10 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 12944574)
The whole point of the scene when Church tells him is because he didn't know. That's why the reveal was a cliffhanger, To Be Continued Next Week.
Church told him because he thought it'd spare his life. It was never inferred that he didn't already know though and the way he responded to being told really seemed like he didn't care one way or the other as-if he already knew the indentity of GA. Also just being told the identity of GA would not have given him knowledge of the book or it's contents. He'd have to have already had knowledge of the book, which still likely points to him already knowing who Oliver was.

robin2099 11-11-16 10:22 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Kdogg (Post 12944622)
Weren't there multiple books out there. I seem to remember Oliver's and Malcolm had copies.
Yeah pretty much anyone who was on the list had a copy of the book.

Come to think of it, Tommy knew that Oilver was The Arrow right?

stingo 11-11-16 05:00 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by blairwitchfan (Post 12943949)
frame job
Yeah but you'd think it would be on someone more believable. Granted, Lance has lots of AWOL time but still...

Tom Banjo 11-11-16 06:44 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 12943726)
It is Oliver's dad!
I think that's a legit theory, and it occurred to me during the latest episode. He could be back thanks to Flashpoint or Alchemy somehow. It would explain why he's interested in the list from season 1 and why he doesn't want Oliver dead.
I think Lance being Prometheus is just a red herring.

SmithsGuy 11-11-16 07:01 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Lance via possession or Damian Dahrk spell leftover from last season - only becomes Prometheus when he drinks?

Misdirection does make more sense ...

stingo 11-12-16 11:45 AM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Though maybe they are going for a situation where to prove he's not Prometheus he has to fess up to the drinking.

Kdogg 11-12-16 02:19 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
I'd prefer they not bring magic back so soon.

Eric F 11-12-16 05:56 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
I thought Prometheus was tech based? (Unless they changed it for the show)

PhantomStranger 11-15-16 09:24 PM
Re: Arrow (S5E06) -- "So It Begins" -- 11/9/16
 
Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 12945981)
I thought Prometheus was tech based? (Unless they changed it for the show)
Kind of both magic and science. Prometheus was like a villainous version of Batman that had access to alien tech.


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