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Old 03-20-18, 05:01 PM
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Re: The Crown (Netflix) -- Queen Elizabeth II series from Peter Morgan

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What are they hoping to change? Paying people based off of their name recognition? Of course it's going to cost more to get a Matt Smith than a Claire Foy based off of their work before this. Claire will make more for her next role based off of the recognition she got from The Crown. I'm sorry but that's just real life.
Ask them. They said they're changing the way they pay folks on their series moving forward.

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Two seasons of the lavish series have been produced and Netflix has ordered a further two. The producers have already committed to pay parity for the upcoming runs of the show, which will see a full cast refresh, to reflect the ageing of the characters. Olivia Colman will play the British monarch on the next two seasons and Helena Bonham Carter Princess Margaret. Other key casting decisions are still to be made.
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So say they were doing the show with multiple ages at once jumping around the timeline with Foy and Carter both on playing Elizabeth. Should they have been getting the same salary? Golden Globe and Oscar nominated actress with 30 year career vs someone who’s essentially an unknown. I don’t think so.

It’s good that “The Queen” will now be paid the most, but their casting needs to reflect that.
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Re: The Crown (Netflix) -- Queen Elizabeth II series from Peter Morgan

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So say they were doing the show with multiple ages at once jumping around the timeline with Foy and Carter both on playing Elizabeth. Should they have been getting the same salary? Golden Globe and Oscar nominated actress with 30 year career vs someone who’s essentially an unknown. I don’t think so.
Ok. So when a 65yo retired woman comes to Walmart to work as a cashier for extra money to live on with her 40 or 50 years of work experience should she be paid more than the 30yo who manages her? Maybe, but we know that's not gonna happen

It’s good that “The Queen” will now be paid the most, but their casting needs to reflect that.
According to who? You? I could be wrong, but it seems there are no set rules for this other than the understanding that "she/he is already famous so she/he should get more". Hell, that's not even a consistent understanding.

Like it or not, the producers feel they have found a way to fix this issue that doesn't depend solely on who's been acting longer and are happy with their solution.
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Ok. So when a 65yo retired woman comes to Walmart to work as a cashier for extra money to live on with her 40 or 50 years of work experience should she be paid more than the 30yo who manages her? Maybe, but we know that's not gonna happen
Comparing Walmart and retail to Hollywood star power is not equal. This has nothing to do with the issue.

If the producer's mandate is now NOBODY makes more money than the actress playing the queen, then the additional actors they get and their agents need to know that going in and shouldn't expect a big payday. In a hypothetical example, if they brought President Obama into a storyline in the future, they aren't going to stunt cast and get a big name like Will Smith because his salary demands are too high. That is unless they producers come to his agent and says this is all we can pay you, if you won't do it for this much, then thank you. Prior to this mandate, if they were willing to spend the money on a big name actor in a role and pay them more than The Queen, they would. I don't see an issue with that. That is how the industry works.

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Comparing Walmart and retail to Hollywood star power is not equal. This has nothing to do with the issue.
Please. It's a valid comparison.


If the producer's mandate is now NOBODY makes more money than the actress playing the queen, then the additional actors they get and their agents need to know that going in and shouldn't expect a big payday. In a hypothetical example, if they brought President Obama into a storyline in the future, they aren't going to stunt cast and get a big name like Will Smith because his salary demands are too high. That is unless they producers come to his agent and says this is all we can pay you, if you won't do it for this much, then thank you. Prior to this mandate, if they were willing to spend the money on a big name actor in a role and pay them more than The Queen, they would. I don't see an issue with that. That is how the industry works.
Also, It may work like that but that doesn't mean it's always been right. "Hollywood" has gotten away with running fast and loose with this stuff forever and people are speaking up and calling them out. If "Hollywood" thinks they're right they'll correct it...as the producers here did. If they don't, then they won't. But clearly they would rather correct it
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Re: The Crown (Netflix) -- Queen Elizabeth II series from Peter Morgan

So you interview for a job with a more white guy that has more experience in that field than you. You will both be doing the same job. You both get hired but the white guy gets a higher salary than you. Is this fair? Or should you make the same as him?
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‘The Crown’ Sets ‘Outlander’s Tobias Menzies As New Prince Philip
http://deadline.com/2018/03/the-crow...ix-1202354968/

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You mean Edmure Tully?
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Re: The Crown (Netflix) -- Queen Elizabeth II series from Peter Morgan

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‘The Crown’ Sets ‘Outlander’s Tobias Menzies As New Prince Philip
http://deadline.com/2018/03/the-crow...ix-1202354968/

He's a great actor and is very good in Outlander. But I am still not a fan of changing actors mid-show like this, as it will be too different. The actor who plays Prince Phillip now has that perfect personality for the playboy as he is sort of that likeable asshole. The actor from Outlander doesn't come off that way, as I think he will portray Phillip in a more darker tone and it maybe jarring to some fans.
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You mean Edmure Tully?
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Re: The Crown (Netflix) -- Queen Elizabeth II series from Peter Morgan

I have a question about the personal events of the first season.

When Elizabeth first becomes Queen, she inherits Tommy as her private secretary. When Tommy retires, she wants Martin, who had been her private secretary when she was Princess, to take on the role, even though some guy named Michael is next in line. (There was the whole thing with the tree trimming.)

My recollection was that Elizabeth basically insisted that she could have the person she wanted . . . y'know, because she's the Queen of England.

I just rewatched the season one finale, and Michael not Martin was her secretary, and Michael was involved with Tommy in the deception regarding Margaret's marriage.

Don't want to go back rewatching episodes, so can anyone explain what happened that Martin didn't get the job and Elizabeth did not get her way.
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