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Old 09-08-16, 08:01 AM
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Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon



Better Things, the new comedy co-created by Pamela Adlon and Louis C.K. and starring Adlon, gets its series premiere on FX on Thursday, September 8 at 10 PM ET/PT. Better Things centers on Sam Fox (Pamela Adlon), a single, working actor with no filter raising her three daughters, Max (Mikey Madison), Frankie (Hannah Alligood) and Duke (Olivia Edward) in Los Angeles. She's mom, dad, referee and the cops. Sam also watches out for her mother, Phil (Celia Imrie), an English expatriate, who lives across the street. Sam is flawed and fierce with her love for her daughters, and her own mother, as well. Sometimes, heaping the love on when she feels guilty. Sam's just trying to earn a living, navigate her daughters' lives, have fun with a friend or two and also - just maybe - squeeze in some private time once in a while. Adlon serves as Executive Producer alongside Louis C.K., Blair Breard, Dave Becky and 3 Arts Entertainment. Better Things is produced by C.K.'s production company Pig Newton for FX Productions.

PRINCIPAL CAST INFORMATION:
Alysia Reiner as Sunny
Celia Imrie as Phyllis
Mikey Madison
Olivia Edward
Pamela Adlon as Sam
Patricia Scanlon as Joy
Riley Watson

CREW INFORMATION:
Blair Breard as EP
Dave Becky as EP
Louis C.K. as CRTR/EP/DIR (Pilot)
Pamela Adlon as CRTR/EP
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10 episode first season.

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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I hope is better than that disaster Mary and Jane.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

It was okay. But I felt the same way I felt about Louie. It took me a few episodes to GET it. The kids felt cliched, especially the older ones. I get that there is a certain attitude we believe that kids have, but they don't all act EXACTLY like that.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

Wasn't really funny, but I was entertained. Pamela seemed to be playing a similar character like she did on Louie only with kids and less snarky.

Some cool cameos. Julie Bowen and even Constance Zimmer from Unreal.

It's just the 1st episode, but this sort of feels like how Louie is. More of a dark dramedy than actual comedy. Thought it was interesting that her character does voice over work like what she did in real life.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I enjoyed it. But it definitely wasn't "funny". I remember either seeing or reading an interview with Adlon that said she wanted to make a personal show. This is pretty much her version of Louie. Real life comedy, I suppose. She has 3 daughters in real life and is separated. She does voice work. And I would assume the scene with Bradley Whitford was a reference to her work on Californication.

I liked the opening credits font and use of Lennon.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

Not funny or entertaining for that matter. There's too much on, one and done for me.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I enjoyed it. Felt very Louie-like, which is a good thing.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

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I enjoyed it. Felt very Louie-like, which is a good thing.
I recorded it. Have not watched yet. I like Pamela, and if it's anything like the show "Louie" then I know I'll enjoy it.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

So far the kids were super annoying. I hope that improves.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I'll check it out at some point. Really like Louie but not sure I care about seeing Aldon as the lead of her own show as much.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

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So far the kids were super annoying. I hope that improves.
Agreed - I had to turn it off. I like Pam's character fine but between her oldest and then the androgynous kid I couldn't take it. I'll check this thread to see if they get less annoying - hopefully they got enough feedback for the pilot early on that they made some changes to those characters.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

The was always the worst thing about Louie for me. No way I'll watch this.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

This was pretty terrible. I'll give it one more.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I love Adlon. This had me hooked first minutes...
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

Lost interest after reading the 3 girls have names that are traditionally for boys. I can't stand the gender ambiguity culture.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

Still pretty terrible but I guess I'll keep watching.

I dont get what they are going for here. All the adults are a bore.
The mom is interesting but she's pretty much a stereotype.

The kids are awful people but they might be the only interesting thing about the show.

How old is the eldest daughter. asking for someone else.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I think she's supposed to be 16, so have a seat over there.

I liked the pilot the best. The last two haven't been as good, IMHO.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I've enjoyed the first three episodes, but it suffers from the same problem I felt during the first couple seasons of Louie; by focusing solely on character and nuance and not having any kind of a story, the viewer is left feeling frustrated. By the end of each episode I always feel like I didn't get a full show, that something is missing.

It isn't that I think Better Things is done poorly, it's just that it it isn't working as a weekly program anymore than something like Casablanca would if you chopped it up into twenty minute segments and aired them once a week.

Louie got better when the episodes became more ambitious and began telling an actual story. I expect Better Things to eventually go that direction.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

Watched this a little more. It has it's moments, but it's really up and down. What brings it down for me are the daughters - they're such pieces of shit.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I finally watched the last 4 eps that I had saved on the dvr.

Still didn't like it until the last 3 shows redeemed it for me.

The kids became more likable.
Mom was more interesting.

I got a little misty at the end of the finale with the issues that Frankie had at school and when mom went to her room to give her a hug.

Will be back next season.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

Season 2 starts tonight, 9/14/17. 10 episodes.

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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I completely forgot about this show and thought tonight was the series premiere. Seems like it's a mixed bag and I'm only really interested because of it being co-created by Louis CK. Pamela Adlon is hit or miss with me. Still planning to check it out tonight. Hopefully I won't be lost hopping into season two.
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Re: Better Things (FX) -- created by Pamela Adlon & Louis C.K. -- S: Pamela Adlon

I was ready to bail halfway through this Ep.
The creepy dude dating the daughter and the mom refused to do anything about it.

Even after it was resolved I still don't like what her reasoning was.

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