I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
#26
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Re: I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
My favorite Late Show intellectual property joke is still Brokaw coming out during the monologue the first night on CBS and scolding Dave while taking a couple of the cue cards.
#27
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Re: I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
#28
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Re: I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
Damn, it is very hard for me to imagine Letterman as "The Clash" (as mentioned in an earlier post) in any respect. Like I said in my first post, I only saw him on CBS, and in particular, the later years, where he was lethargic at best. They did run clips of the old days which seemed kind of fun, and of course I'd seen the Andy Kaufman/Lawler bit repeatedly (but he seemed pissed about that). Wish they actually reran his older stuff.
I don't know about you guys, but to me, comedians have a definite shelf life. Sure, society itself changes, and jokes about Jews or Italians or "broads" are no longer funny because it's socially unacceptable. But comedians themselves - their schtick, if you will - is only funny for a time. Ever watch Steve Martin's standup from the 70s? It's painfully unfunny now. Robin Williams standup? Still kind of funny, but we're all so familiar with his mile-a-minute delivery by now that it's lost much of the humor. George Carlin seemed like a bitter old hippie in his last comedy specials, when he wasn't rehashing the same old "place for my stuff" or "baseball and football" routines he'd been doing for decades. Would Sam Kinison's extra-shouty humor still be funny today? How about Andrew Dice Clay and his "nasty Guido" schtick? How about someone more modern and less polarizing, like Frank Caliendo... the guy does the same 12 impressions, which were funny in 2002, but are old hat now.
Everyone says that Letterman lost something when he moved to CBS. I agree. But I don't know if it's because CBS told him to "grow up and lose the wackiness", or whether Letterman was just tired of doing it, or whether he worried about dating himself. In my mind, he kind of did all of the above in an attempt to become "Carson-like", to become the "elder statesman" of late night TV, if you will. I think he did become a better interviewer at CBS... but he lost most of his appeal (to me) by doing so.
Last edited by Rex Fenestrarum; 05-18-16 at 11:44 AM.
#29
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Re: I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
Letterman definitely lost the wackiness. I saw an article about it during the transition. They had to drop the small but funny guests like Kamarr the Discount Magician.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYTVcCvTUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYTVcCvTUs
Last edited by Nick Danger; 05-18-16 at 12:27 PM.
#31
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Re: I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
Bingo. Rarely missed an episode while he was on NBC. I used to have one of those jackets he wore in that video that was posted. But I got I too young, grew out of it, and let it go. God I was stupid in my youth.
#32
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Re: I didn't grow up with Letterman in the 80's- how did he change late night?
Not to turn this into an SNL thread, but man, you took the words right out of my mouth on this one. So many people said that SNL died the moment the original cast left, but they forget how many unfunny skits they used to air. Or the terrible short films. Or the long musical jams when they were short on material and just let the musical guest play. Like anything on SNL, there's amazing stuff in there (skits, films, bands), but a lot of crap too.