jfoobar

This may have been posted here before since it is a few weeks old. I was already aware of the "R+L=J" theory about Snow but had ignored it, but this is pretty convincing video about what this guy predicts will ultimately happen with Snow both soon and in the future of the show. If this guy is even close to right this would constitute some serious spoilers so I'll spoiler it:

Josh-da-man

Regarding the title of episode 3...

jfoobar

jfoobar

Amusing, from Sophie Turner's Instagram feed:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEyZgqVKovh/

dhmac

On the topic of Stannis from last season, I thought how the show depicted his fall was strongly influenced by Greek Tragedy. Sacrificing his daughter in order to please a god is like what Agamemnon, who was the king leading the Greek forces against Troy in the Iliad, did when he sacrificed his daughter on an altar in order to please a god.

And the way Stannis believed the prophecy of the Red Woman that ultimately lead to his demise reminded me of an Ancient Greek story about a king named Croesus. Croesus asked the Oracle at Delphi for a prophecy when planning to go to war. And the Oracle told him that if he went to war, a great kingdom would be destroyed. Croesus believed the prophecy was a good sign and started the war. It then came true that a great kingdom was destroyed: his own.

And Stannis through his pride and ambition to sit on the Iron Throne ultimate ended the line of true-blood, non-bastard Baratheons by killing both his only remaining brother as well as his only heir, Shireen. That's pure Greek Tragedy right there.

davidh777

Iphigenia call-out FTW

DaveyJoe

Osiris3657

Um, how would you know since you haven't read the books? The stories have verged into different directions for alot of characters, maybe you'd like the book version more "satisfactory"

Defiant1

Maybe because D&D know how the whole thing ends and will wrap it up within the next two years, while GRRM is taking his sweet time and let's just say there are fewer years in front of him than there are behind.

actionjackson29

There may not even be 29 episodes left as the showrunners are saying maybe only 13 episodes after this season. I could see HBO overruling them and requesting 2 more 10 episode seasons though. I do feel your frustration about winter still not being here yet although characters have been talking about it for years.

slop101

Well, maybe if winter comes, they all die. So maybe it ends with them preventing winter from coming for good.

Astrofan

Um, can you please quote where I said I didn't read the books?

Osiris3657

Saying "The only good thing is we no longer have book-readers dropping non-stop spoilers." pretty heavily implies that you haven't.

Astrofan

In other words I didn't.

Anyway I was concerned for non-book readers because many people don't know how to discuss something without giving away major points. The Walking Dead thread is rife with these peoples' comments.

hdnmickey

Exactly and I totally agree with you. And it's not just TWD. It applies to pretty much every comic book related show or movie. It like the common understanding of what spoilers are goes out the window just because the spoiler is based on printed content rather than video/film content.

Maz Kanata

Yeah, it's Greek tragedy. The storyline was still handled poorly on the show.

dhmac

Not from a Greek Tragedy perspective, in which a previous crime could come back to bring justice.

dhmac

Because Geek released a video explaining the mistakes in this episode...



As a complainer about some of the mistakes, this works for me.