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Old 04-12-16, 03:40 PM
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Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16




A SECRET FROM HYDRA'S PAST THREATENS TO DESTROY THEM ALL, ON "MARVEL'S AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D."

"Paradise Lost" - S.H.I.E.L.D. hunts for information on their dangerous new enemy, and a shameful secret from Malick's past is exposed, threatening to destroy his Hydra legacy, on "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.," TUESDAY, APRIL 12 (9:00-10:00 p.m. EDT) on the ABC Television Network.

"Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." stars Clark Gregg as Director Phil Coulson, Ming-Na Wen as Agent Melinda May, Brett Dalton as Grant Ward, Chloe Bennet as Agent Daisy Johnson, Iain De Caestecker as Agent Leo Fitz, Elizabeth Henstridge as Agent Jemma Simmons, Nick Blood as Agent Lance Hunter, Adrianne Palicki as Agent Bobbi Morse, Henry Simmons as Agent Alphonso "Mack" MacKenzie and Luke Mitchell as Lincoln Campbell.

Guest starring are Reed Diamond as Daniel Whitehall, Powers Boothe as Gideon Malick, Mark Dacascos as Giyera, Cameron Palatas as young Gideon Malick, Alexander Wraith as Agent Anderson, Joel Dabney Courtney as Nathaniel Malick, Axle Whitehead as James, Mark Atteberry as Kurt Vogel, Ana Zimhart as S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, Henry Leblanc as mourner and Bethany Joy Lenz as Stephanie Malick.

"Paradise Lost" was written by George Kitson and Sharla Oliver and directed by Wendey Stanzler.



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Old 04-12-16, 10:25 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Decent ep.

Loved the flash backs (but the twist was telegraphed).

Looking forward to next week.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

I already forgot, what was the twist?
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

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I already forgot, what was the twist?
How Ward (aka Hive, aka Nate (Malik's brother)) knew that Malik had kept the rock and that Ward/Hive/Nate wanted revenge.

That was telegraphed... now when Ward/Hive/Nate killed Stephanie (kinda gross when your "Uncle" gives you the kiss of death) that surprised me.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Oh, I didn't see that as a twist.
I also didn't like the way that went because I thought that alien thing took the body of whomever he became.
So he should have been in the body of Malik's brother?
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

The only time the alien would have looked like Malik's brother is on the alien world. We never seen it before it took over the astronaut. After it took over the astronaut it took over Ward.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Right but how would it know brothers memories? Was that behind the scenes that he killed brother? Also once more. Doesn't Alien take the body as a host? Why is it still Ward?
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

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Oh, I didn't see that as a twist.
Well, Malik keeping the Rock was the twist to me. At least I took it that way.

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Right but how would it know brothers memories? Was that behind the scenes that he killed brother? Also once more. Doesn't Alien take the body as a host? Why is it still Ward?
They explained somewhere that the alien kept the memories of the pasts hosts as he passed from host to host. So Hive is the sum of the hosts he's taken.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

The sphere they got looks like it has the Doctor Strange Sanctum Sanctorum symbol.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Originally Posted by gmanca View Post
The sphere they got looks like it has the Doctor Strange Sanctum Sanctorum symbol.
Good chance that's no accident.

I thought it was a good episode overall. Personally I enjoy this series far more than Supergirl, Arrow and LoT when it comes to other comic based shows.

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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Originally Posted by gmanca View Post
The sphere they got looks like it has the Doctor Strange Sanctum Sanctorum symbol.
My first thought was Guardians of the Galaxy sphere but didn't get too good of a look at it ...
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pretty good ep
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

The entity that came from the other planet isn't technically an alien is it? It's the first Inhuman so it should at least be partly human, correct?
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

I was really confused about the thing in Ward, then I just read the Wikipedia article for this episode and now it makes more sense. The traveler that they sacrificed with the picking of the rocks was sent to that other world for Hive (the thing in Ward) to possess. So since Malick's brother was a traveler, he was sent over there and that's when Hive possessed him and took his memories.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

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The entity that came from the other planet isn't technically an alien is it? It's the first Inhuman so it should at least be partly human, correct?
I think it was whatever species lived on the planet. That might have been humans or something else. We can't assume humans were the only species the Kree experimented on.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Was there a reference, perhaps in the cabin conversation, to an ancient Inhuman who was related to or opposed to Hive (or was Hive?)?
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (S3E16) -- "Paradise Lost" -- 4/12/16

Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell View Post
I think it was whatever species lived on the planet. That might have been humans or something else. We can't assume humans were the only species the Kree experimented on.
Nope, it was an inhuman on Earth that was banished to that other place. Again, the show didn't make it very clear, but this Agents of SHIELD wiki entry explains it. A quote from Gideon Malick on that page:
Thousands of years ago, an Inhuman was born on this planet that was destined to rule it, so powerful, so fearsome that others were consumed with dread, and so they banished it from the Earth, sent it through the portal to a distant planet. HYDRA was founded with the sole purpose of engineering its return.

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