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Old 04-06-16, 05:58 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Coral
BB starts out in late 2008... and Kaylee is first seen in S3 which is early 2009. She's 10 years old. So she really should be 1 or 2 years old in BCS, instead of the 8 or 9 that she looks.

Like I said - it's not a big deal. She's a minor character and it doesn't make any difference to the story. Just surprised they slipped up when they're normally very good with details that are much smaller.

I'm wondering if there's a reason they didn't age her properly. Maybe Kaylee plays a factor in a future episode that requires her to be older?
I could just be not remembering but did they actually ever say she was ten in Breaking Bad? I mean I assumed she probably wasn't much older than that but I don't recall Mike or anyone else ever saying anything about how old she was.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Mike86
I could just be not remembering but did they actually ever say she was ten in Breaking Bad? I mean I assumed she probably wasn't much older than that but I don't recall Mike or anyone else ever saying anything about how old she was.
I don't think they ever gave an age, but she looked she was about ten.

And Mike had her at a playground in the final season of BB, so she's either under twelve or retarded.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
And Mike had her at a playground in the final season of BB, so she's either under twelve or retarded.
Maybe Kaylee got into the meth.

I googled it. In Season 5, Episode 2 - Hank brings up Kaylee to Mike and says she's 10 years old (I watched the scene and confirmed it).

According to the Breaking Bad timeline, that episode takes place in the summer of 2009.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by slop101
Scanners and Photoshop weren't as prevalent 10 years ago as they are now.
Scanners are probably less prevalent now that smartphones are omnipresent and can take photos of documents.

Photoshop was already commonplace in the late '90s, even at Kinko's. Consider that Worth1000 started in 2002.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

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And, yeah, if this is taking place in 2002, Photoshop wasn't as widely-used as it is now, and you would probably have to be a pretty techy person to pull that off with Windows 98/2000/ME.
What? All it takes is a simple graphics editing program. MS Paint could do it. Photoshop Elements had been around since 1996.

Photoshop is arguably less widely-used now that consumers aren't likely to subscribe to it for personal use. Then again, CS2 is free.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

And these copy stores are usually on top of the latest tech (Staples, FedEx, UPS). They're been rolling out 3D printing services a while back, and that's far from a commonplace tool.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Y'all are confusing what technology was available with what Jimmy knew how to do.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Photoshop may be prevalent now but when I need to copy someone's signature I still cut it out, tape it to the new doc and photo copy it. It's not about the technology but what you're comfortable doing.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by slop101
Scanners and Photoshop weren't as prevalent 10 years ago as they are now.
2006? Scanners were a hot item in Staples and big box stores well over 10 years ago. Now, not so much - they've been integrated into printers. I used Photoshop a lot more over 10 years ago than I now.

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
And, yeah, if this is taking place in 2002, Photoshop wasn't as widely-used as it is now, and you would probably have to be a pretty techy person to pull that off with Windows 98/2000/ME.
Where are you guys getting this shit from? Most people using Photoshop in that era were Mac users, first of all. Photoshop has always been widely used. I think you mean it wasn't as widely pirated as it is now.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Groucho
Y'all are confusing what technology was available with what Jimmy knew how to do.
Exactly. The point of the scene isn't so much what he's doing, but that he's clearly pulling something out of his grifter bag-of-tricks, - a bit of old-school "magic" he knows, -to pull off something that will be important later. It's all part of his transformation. It's a parallel to what Mike's doing with the hose. Doing it with computers and scanners would not be "Jimmy", -it would be every computer whiz on every show.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

lack of photoshop ruined the show for me. i'm done :P
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by CRM114
2006? Scanners were a hot item in Staples and big box stores well over 10 years ago. Now, not so much - they've been integrated into printers. I used Photoshop a lot more over 10 years ago than I now.
Were they? My experience is different then yours, since I don't recall any of that, and since Jimmy is even older than I was back then, I'm sure he knew fuck all about scanners and photoshop as well. And it takes place even further back than 2006.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

would have loved a montage of Slippin Jimmy staring at a computer screen
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Groucho
Y'all are confusing what technology was available with what Jimmy knew how to do.
Nope. I said this in my initial post:

Originally Posted by bluetoast
But it wouldn't have given us the montage, plus Jimmy was probably using methods he was familiar with.
My posts after that were specifically about availability, which was a separate topic. Unless I'm being Groucho'd.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by mnementh
A scanner and Photoshop would've been faster.
It's far easier getting something to look like the original document by using a copier. Scanning and Photoshopping will definitely make the final output look altered.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Groucho
Y'all are confusing what technology was available with what Jimmy knew how to do.
Yeah, Jimmy's probably about forty when this takes place. Probably safe to assume he's been on the up-and-up for about six or seven or eight years. If he went straight and started working on his law degree around 1995, he probably never used a computer/internet to scam people. From what we've seen of Jimmy he seems kind of old-school and not particularly tech-saavy.

I wonder if this particular scam won't come back and bite him the ass. Speaking of computers and Jimmy's level of tech-saavy, I would assume that all of those documents were typed up in Word or another word processor and printed on a laser printer. It would be easy for them to go back and look at the original files and see that the documents were altered. They could also probably closely scrutinize the copies Jimmy made and see that these were, in fact, photocopies of the original printed documents.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

what year is this season supposedly?
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by DaveNinja
lack of photoshop ruined the show for me. i'm done :P
I should have never brought up liking the Kinkos scene with this nitpicking crowd.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by OldBoy
what year is this season supposedly?
First season was 2002, should still be that, if not 2003 by now.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

thanks slop.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Red Dog
I should have never brought up liking the Kinkos scene with this nitpicking crowd.
I don't complain about Kaylee's age like a ton of posts do on this show every time she shows up. I just wanted to argue about the available technology.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I don't complain about Kaylee's age like a ton of posts do on this show every time she shows up. I just wanted to argue about the available technology.
I don't think anyone's complaining - just pointing out a glaring error. It was brought up again because this episode erased any doubt that some previously had.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by slop101
Were they? My experience is different then yours, since I don't recall any of that
Yeah, they were. By the late '90s, sub-$100 scanners were common at the office stores and CompUSA; I bought one for $40 one Black Friday. Like I pointed out, Worth1000 started in 2002 which reflects the internet culture of Photoshop users making and sharing funny pictures. The magazine Layers was commonly found in Barnes and Noble and in Borders.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by Gunde
It's far easier getting something to look like the original document by using a copier. Scanning and Photoshopping will definitely make the final output look altered.
The claim that scanning and Photoshopping will definitely make output look altered is just false. To make that point even more moot, by 2002, my local Kinko's used digital copiers, devices that work by scanning documents and printing them out again.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S2E08) -- "Fifi" -- 4/4/16

Originally Posted by boss429
Did anyone else think the title of "Fifi" had to do with a homemade masturbation tool inmates use in prison...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...&defid=2576844

Yup.

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