The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
I looked pretty closely this episode when they showed the prisoner. His hands looked like white skin with smoot and dirt on them. I don't think it's Wally. Honestly, I don't think that reveal would have much impact since Wally is such a new character. It's pretty clear at this point they likely won't be touching on any Kid Flash stuff until next season.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
The reveal blows up many fan theories and adds another twist to both the identity of Zoom, the true nature of Team Flash's resident "Jay Garrick" and the reveal that Earth-1's Garrick is called Hunter Zolomon. Considering that one of Zoom's alternate identities in the comics is Hunter Zolomon, "Flash" showrunner Andrew Kreisberg told TV Line that that one clue should have tipped off audiences.
“What’s funny is we showed that Jay’s doppelganger was Hunter Zolomon, and we assumed the comic book fans would say, ‘A-ha’ right away. ‘Jay must be Zoom,’" said Kreisberg. "But I think that, like Barry and the team, they didn’t want to or just couldn’t believe it.”
Kreisberg also discussed the man posing as Jay Garrick that has become a valued member of Team Flash over the course of season two. “I don’t think you can assume anything that Jay has said to the team or the audience is the full truth. It is a version of the truth,” said Kreisberg.
And then there's the mystery of the man in the iron mask, the one that freaked out over hearing the name "Jay" in last week's "Escape from Earth-2" episode. What's his deal, and will he clarify or confuse matters more? “The mystery of the Man in the Iron Mask will play out over the rest of the season with some clues being layered in along the way,” said Kreisberg. “When you do find out who it is, everything will make sense in a very satisfying way.”
“What’s funny is we showed that Jay’s doppelganger was Hunter Zolomon, and we assumed the comic book fans would say, ‘A-ha’ right away. ‘Jay must be Zoom,’" said Kreisberg. "But I think that, like Barry and the team, they didn’t want to or just couldn’t believe it.”
Kreisberg also discussed the man posing as Jay Garrick that has become a valued member of Team Flash over the course of season two. “I don’t think you can assume anything that Jay has said to the team or the audience is the full truth. It is a version of the truth,” said Kreisberg.
And then there's the mystery of the man in the iron mask, the one that freaked out over hearing the name "Jay" in last week's "Escape from Earth-2" episode. What's his deal, and will he clarify or confuse matters more? “The mystery of the Man in the Iron Mask will play out over the rest of the season with some clues being layered in along the way,” said Kreisberg. “When you do find out who it is, everything will make sense in a very satisfying way.”
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
I was thinking it was either Wally West or Diggle in the mask... Quite possibly Wally from an alternate Earth who already has his speed (why else would Zoom imprison him?).
You can tell they are starting to form an origin story for Wally. All of a sudden he's an engineer, and will probably be in a lab in college next season and have an accident similar to Barry's.
The reason why most of us are blown away by the FX for King Shark was because it probably cost them a fortune to do that for TV. You rarely see TV shows with that quality of FX in it (especially for long scenes like they did with this episode).
You can tell they are starting to form an origin story for Wally. All of a sudden he's an engineer, and will probably be in a lab in college next season and have an accident similar to Barry's.
The reason why most of us are blown away by the FX for King Shark was because it probably cost them a fortune to do that for TV. You rarely see TV shows with that quality of FX in it (especially for long scenes like they did with this episode).
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
or this...
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=104
"According to my theory: Yes. Also, that wasn't the real Jay on Earth 1, it was Earth 1's Hunter Zolomon. Zoom is Earth 2's Zolomon. The two Zolomons were working together. The man in the iron mask is the real Jay Garrick, and is not played by Teddy Sears."
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=104
"According to my theory: Yes. Also, that wasn't the real Jay on Earth 1, it was Earth 1's Hunter Zolomon. Zoom is Earth 2's Zolomon. The two Zolomons were working together. The man in the iron mask is the real Jay Garrick, and is not played by Teddy Sears."
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
Yes.
Zoom/E-2 Zolomom was on the bench.
I can't figure out without saying there are three Garrick/Zolomon's who the
Three of them are assuming Iron Mask is also a Garrick/Zolomon
Zoom is E-2's Zolomon.
Mask is E-2's Garrick
Dead guy = I don't know.
Missing is E-1's Garrick and Zolomon so IDK is probably one of them.
I'm calling the Tv show proper E-1
Zoom/E-2 Zolomom was on the bench.
I can't figure out without saying there are three Garrick/Zolomon's who the
Three of them are assuming Iron Mask is also a Garrick/Zolomon
Zoom is E-2's Zolomon.
Mask is E-2's Garrick
Dead guy = I don't know.
Missing is E-1's Garrick and Zolomon so IDK is probably one of them.
I'm calling the Tv show proper E-1
Last edited by whotony; 02-24-16 at 09:58 PM.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
I love this show, but the reveal is making this all seem a little too much like the Reverse-Flash mystery of season 1 played out again with a different cast.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
King Shark was well done, and a nice water chase with the Flash at the end.
Also love the scene where King Shark ripped the roof off the West House. And Joe's reply. HA!
The drame between Barry and Wally was uneceassry.
Also love the scene where King Shark ripped the roof off the West House. And Joe's reply. HA!
The drame between Barry and Wally was uneceassry.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
no, but you see, since he races cars and knows how to put on after market custom NOS gear, he must clearly be an engineer... COME ON, BARRY, HE ALREADY KNOWS HOW TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT BIODIESEL FUEL CONSUMPTION! What? Do you think he's an idiot or something, sheeesh!
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
Reminds me of when Rachel went from being a waitress at CP to an executive at Ralph Lauren overnight on Friends.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
Good Lord, you guys are brutal
In a world where metahumans are easily created out of pseudo-science gobbledegook, time and dimensional travel is possible, and evil dopplegangers exists across the multiverse, this is the battle you're picking?
In a world where metahumans are easily created out of pseudo-science gobbledegook, time and dimensional travel is possible, and evil dopplegangers exists across the multiverse, this is the battle you're picking?
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
Yes.
Zoom/E-2 Zolomom was on the bench.
I can't figure out without saying there are three Garrick/Zolomon's who the
Three of them are assuming Iron Mask is also a Garrick/Zolomon
Zoom is E-2's Zolomon.
Mask is E-2's Garrick
Dead guy = I don't know.
Missing is E-1's Garrick and Zolomon so IDK is probably one of them.
I'm calling the Tv show proper E-1
Zoom/E-2 Zolomom was on the bench.
I can't figure out without saying there are three Garrick/Zolomon's who the
Three of them are assuming Iron Mask is also a Garrick/Zolomon
Zoom is E-2's Zolomon.
Mask is E-2's Garrick
Dead guy = I don't know.
Missing is E-1's Garrick and Zolomon so IDK is probably one of them.
I'm calling the Tv show proper E-1
Dead Guy could be:
1. Zolomon from another earth.
2. Super Speed Mirage (cause Zoom is that damn fast, but God I hope not)
3. Cademus/Argus Clone
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
I don't think they should have unmasked Zoom. At least not yet. No good reason to reveal his identity now. Keep his aura and keep the audience guessing.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
If it's not clones, I'm going with two sets of twins separate at birth.
On a side note, with the addiction of Wally and eventually Jessie Quick I hope Star Labs doesn't get too crowded.
On a side note, with the addiction of Wally and eventually Jessie Quick I hope Star Labs doesn't get too crowded.
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Re: The Flash (S2E15) -- "King Shark" -- 2/23/16
I'm personally leaning towards Earth-3 Jay/Zoloman is Zoom. That would certainly help tie things into Supergirl. Otherwise, I guess Barry could just use E-3 has a long road to Earth-2.
Anybody else pick up on the vibe between Cisco and Jessie?
For just getting his daughter back, Harry was pretty indifferent about her being there/alive..
Anybody else pick up on the vibe between Cisco and Jessie?
For just getting his daughter back, Harry was pretty indifferent about her being there/alive..