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Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15





A NEW MAYOR WILL BRING NEW TERROR ON AN ALL-NEW "GOTHAM" MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2, ON FOX

Butch leads Penguin and his men to the warehouse where Gertrude is being held, as Penguin plots his revenge on Galavan for kidnapping his mother. Meanwhile, Nygma deals with the aftermath of a deadly accident in the all new "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" episode of GOTHAM airing Monday, Nov. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-207) (TV-14 D, L, V)

Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, Morena Baccarin as Leslie Thompkins, Michael Chiklis as Detective Nathaniel Barnes, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the future Riddler, James Frain as Theo Galavan, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Nicholas D'Agosto as Harvey Dent, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean, Zabryna Guevara as Captain Sarah Essen

Guest Cast: Carol Kane as Gertrud Kapelput, Anthony Carrigan as Victor Zsasz, Chelsea Spack as Kristin Kringle, Natalie Alyn Lind as Silver St. Cloud, Ian Quinlan as Carl Pinkney, Lucas Salvagno as Martinez

Episode 7 of 22


4 more episodes left after tonight until the Fall Finale
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

There goes another supporting character from season one. They won't have many left if they keep killing them off. I thought Butch was a goner at one point in this episode.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Pretty terrific episode, back on track.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

this was an awesome episode... the fight between the young girls over bruce was awesome
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

This season has been fantastic IMO. Can't wait for next week.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Loved how Silver felt the need to look out the window when she was hugging Bruce. She knew damn well Selina was watching. When two teenage girls get pi$$ed at one another, not even Batman will be able to break up that fight. Did Silver start out as a villain in the comics as well?

Lack of realism aside, this show really knows how to turn it up when it needs to.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD View Post
Loved how Silver felt the need to look out the window when she was hugging Bruce. She knew damn well Selina was watching. When two teenage girls get pi$$ed at one another, not even Batman will be able to break up that fight. Did Silver start out as a villain in the comics as well?

Lack of realism aside, this show really knows how to turn it up when it needs to.
I love Selina.

In fact I think that Gotham has the best Selina Kyle, Alfred and Penguin that I have seen on TV or film.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Even the World's Greatest Detective can be blinded by his hormones .
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Was The Riddler ever portrayed as such a homicidal maniac before? I always thought he was usually depicted as more of a nuisance more than anything.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

I don't like how they're turning Bruce into a dumbass.
He blew up the door instead of solving the passcode which was just his damn name.
Now he's just completely blinded left and right about everything going on around him.
Just can't see this kid growing up to be Batman.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by Koby View Post
I don't like how they're turning Bruce into a dumbass.
He blew up the door instead of solving the passcode which was just his damn name.
Now he's just completely blinded left and right about everything going on around him.
Just can't see this kid growing up to be Batman.
Even 13yr old Bruce knows it's all about the pussy...
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

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Was The Riddler ever portrayed as such a homicidal maniac before? I always thought he was usually depicted as more of a nuisance more than anything.
I was a little disturbed by that change. In recent years the Riddler has become an information broker of some kind in the comics, like Oracle for villains. I guess this Riddler will be a crazy psychotic killer.

He's always been one of my favorites and I like the actor playing him on Gotham, but I hope the Riddler doesn't become another Joker-lite.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD View Post
Loved how Silver felt the need to look out the window when she was hugging Bruce. She knew damn well Selina was watching. When two teenage girls get pi$$ed at one another, not even Batman will be able to break up that fight. Did Silver start out as a villain in the comics as well?

Lack of realism aside, this show really knows how to turn it up when it needs to.
No, Silver was just an exotic new woman in Bruce's life created by writer Steve Englehart for his "Detective Comics" run with Walt Simonson and, later, Marshall Rogers. She left when the writer did. She was brought back when Englehart and Rogers returned to the character for a mini-series a decade or more later (though I forget how she was handled in that).
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by Koby View Post
I don't like how they're turning Bruce into a dumbass.
He blew up the door instead of solving the passcode which was just his damn name.
Now he's just completely blinded left and right about everything going on around him.
Just can't see this kid growing up to be Batman.
Maybe setting him up for a big moment when he grows up later in the season
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by Koby View Post
I don't like how they're turning Bruce into a dumbass.
He blew up the door instead of solving the passcode which was just his damn name.
Now he's just completely blinded left and right about everything going on around him.
Just can't see this kid growing up to be Batman.
My hope is we eventually get a reveal that Bruce is a step ahead of Galavan, though I doubt it.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Lst week the show resembled American Horror Story. This Week, Pretty Little Liars.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger View Post
I was a little disturbed by that change. In recent years the Riddler has become an information broker of some kind in the comics, like Oracle for villains. I guess this Riddler will be a crazy psychotic killer.

He's always been one of my favorites and I like the actor playing him on Gotham, but I hope the Riddler doesn't become another Joker-lite.
The only comic I can remember where Riddler comes off as a serious threat is
Spoiler:
Hush
. And I'm spoiling that because if you knew the comic I'd totally ruin it for you. I'm sure most people have read it by now, it's a pretty popular Batman story.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Originally Posted by Tom Creo View Post
Lst week the show resembled American Horror Story. This Week, Pretty Little Liars.
That would explain the big 'A' we got earlier this season. Mona versus the Dark Knight.
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My hope is we eventually get a reveal that Bruce is a step ahead of Galavan, though I doubt it.
That would be Batman-appropriate, which means I doubt that this show would do it.
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger View Post
In recent years the Riddler has become an information broker of some kind in the comics, like Oracle for villains.
Didn't they use the Calculator for a similar function as "evil Oracle" in the wake of Identity Crisis?
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Didn't they use the Calculator for a similar function as "evil Oracle" in the wake of Identity Crisis?
It's become the hip job for reformed villains everywhere.
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Re: Gotham (S2E07) -- "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" -- 11/2/15

Hopefully Riddler's split personality is gone for good. He was basically Two-Face for his past several appearances, quite similar to Harvey Dent's "Big Bad Harv" schtick from The Animated Series (Was Big Bad Harv ever in the comics?). And since we already have a future Two-Face on Gotham, it was just odd that they decided to go this route with another one of the major villains.

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